1 00:00:05,010 --> 00:00:08,090 Ha ha ha , it's a pretty good friend 2 00:00:08,170 --> 00:00:08,930 So anyway 3 00:00:08,930 --> 00:00:10,030 This is the , uh 4 00:00:10,030 --> 00:00:11,930 The twentieth anniversary 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,520 Uh 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,239 Special edition dvd of transformers 7 00:00:17,930 --> 00:00:20,890 And , uh , what does everybody introduced themselves 8 00:00:21,250 --> 00:00:22,770 This is an nelson shen 9 00:00:22,770 --> 00:00:25,450 Uh , i'm working as the director 10 00:00:25,490 --> 00:00:27,310 And i'm susan blue 11 00:00:27,310 --> 00:00:29,490 And i was rc in the movie 12 00:00:29,610 --> 00:00:31,090 And i'm flint dilly 13 00:00:31,090 --> 00:00:33,010 and i was a writer on the 14 00:00:33,010 --> 00:00:36,040 And producer and story edit on the show 15 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,940 And writer on the movie 16 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:39,120 Have some different credit 17 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:40,360 Will know what it is when we get to it 18 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,840 But it's a big credit 19 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:41,920 Yeah 20 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,320 I function as a writer 21 00:00:45,050 --> 00:00:46,770 I always say if it's not on the page 22 00:00:46,770 --> 00:00:47,850 It's not on the stage 23 00:00:47,850 --> 00:00:50,170 Now nelson , you got out with scandal story 24 00:00:50,170 --> 00:00:53,650 The first there was the , uh , uh , yukon 25 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,480 You know , the coming toto 26 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,040 The , uh , one of a planet 27 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,680 Uh , this man made the planet , you know 28 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:09,580 Yeah , what's interesting about is we never really knew what planet this was 29 00:01:09,580 --> 00:01:13,740 and you know , where were afraid that everybody think this is cyber tron and all 30 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:15,060 And that would confuse everybody 31 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:17,380 But i know that he waever actually got confused 32 00:01:17,380 --> 00:01:18,840 I don't think they did actually 33 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,780 Yeah , i don't think they were 34 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:21,220 I think we were pretty confused 35 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,320 grp it's unicorn 36 00:01:33,020 --> 00:01:33,440 Okay 37 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,740 So here comes unicron 38 00:01:34,740 --> 00:01:37,540 This is one of the most this , i think this scene 39 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,520 You know , caused more controversy and an issue than , than anything in the movie 40 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,080 Why do you think i don't know 41 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Nelson can tell that now 42 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,620 And well , this , this is the , the unicorn come to the , uh 43 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:50,760 You know , smaller the plane 44 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,340 Uh , you know , eating up 45 00:01:52,340 --> 00:01:54,460 But he's getting , uh 46 00:01:54,460 --> 00:01:56,800 Resource for the activate , you know 47 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,520 Yeah 48 00:01:57,970 --> 00:01:59,890 He's getting , he's getting life 49 00:01:59,890 --> 00:02:00,370 Yeah 50 00:02:00,370 --> 00:02:02,770 He's , uh , eating up and , uh , he 51 00:02:02,850 --> 00:02:06,360 You know , the later inside of the unicorn 52 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,220 Well , we can see all the chunking , uh 53 00:02:09,220 --> 00:02:12,120 He's smashing the , all the debris , right 54 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,930 And getting , uh , probably like , uh 55 00:02:16,090 --> 00:02:18,010 For the living , you know , uh 56 00:02:18,250 --> 00:02:19,290 Yeah 57 00:02:34,980 --> 00:02:35,480 Yeah 58 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,660 This is all inside of the unicorn 59 00:02:37,660 --> 00:02:39,100 You know , this is organic 60 00:02:39,940 --> 00:02:40,540 Yeah 61 00:02:40,540 --> 00:02:44,950 So he , he gets the juice out and he's , uh , getting lights 62 00:02:45,010 --> 00:02:47,210 So shuh . now the , uh , uh 63 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:47,770 He can 64 00:02:48,210 --> 00:02:51,290 You know , survive and he can , uh , activate , right 65 00:02:51,290 --> 00:02:54,050 How many artists did you have doing that first scene 66 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Uh , we , we're working the , uh , well 67 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,460 You know , a lot of people 68 00:02:57,460 --> 00:03:02,100 But , uh , like , uh , four hundred people working all together the time 69 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:02,750 Wow 70 00:03:02,750 --> 00:03:04,930 And oh yeah 71 00:03:04,930 --> 00:03:06,050 Yes , big studio 72 00:03:06,050 --> 00:03:07,970 and for 73 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:11,120 That was very ahead of its time 74 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,580 Don't you think that scene right there 75 00:03:12,580 --> 00:03:12,810 Yeah 76 00:03:12,810 --> 00:03:15,170 I had a little bit of two thousand one field to it 77 00:03:15,170 --> 00:03:18,840 But all that , but i always liked this version of the soundtrack 78 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:19,140 Yeah 79 00:03:19,140 --> 00:03:20,300 We had a great cast too 80 00:03:20,300 --> 00:03:21,260 I just leave these here 81 00:03:21,260 --> 00:03:23,580 We got monty python and my gosh 82 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:26,280 John nelson 83 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:26,840 He was , yeah 84 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,640 He was part of the part of the brad pack 85 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:29,520 He was , he was really hard 86 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,320 He wouldn't they were doing that 87 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:31,240 He was , uh , yeah 88 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:31,620 Very 89 00:03:31,620 --> 00:03:32,910 Oh i loin des moi 90 00:03:32,910 --> 00:03:35,550 Course he got ahead to have some star trek in this movie here 91 00:03:36,350 --> 00:03:37,710 transformer 92 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,040 Robert stack was great 93 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,840 I'll tell a story about him 94 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,120 And i love my gosh wonderful 95 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,980 And there he is also else very and wells 96 00:03:53,980 --> 00:03:56,780 Yeah , that's that's a great story coming up here since we get past tball 97 00:03:56,780 --> 00:03:58,720 And this there is fastest talking guy in the world 98 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,140 Didn't he do fedex commercials 99 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:02,530 He did he did that commercial that's how they found him 100 00:04:02,530 --> 00:04:02,960 Yeah 101 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:03,900 He was , he was great 102 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:05,280 I mean he really talked like that 103 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:06,600 I mean you were in the recording studio 104 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,720 And this guy talked a lot faster than i could think 105 00:04:09,420 --> 00:04:12,100 It is the year two thousand five 106 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:13,710 The tris decepate 107 00:04:13,710 --> 00:04:13,830 Yeah 108 00:04:13,830 --> 00:04:16,149 I remember two thousand five was a long time in the future 109 00:04:16,149 --> 00:04:17,310 Unbelievable 110 00:04:17,470 --> 00:04:21,220 Well , what's what's interesting about this movie is that you'll see it 111 00:04:21,220 --> 00:04:21,820 It really is 112 00:04:21,820 --> 00:04:24,140 Oh there's my creda story consultant 113 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:24,500 Yeah 114 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:25,540 Elly . yeah 115 00:04:25,540 --> 00:04:26,520 That was , uh 116 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:31,230 Tom griffin the iron an freeman had written the first draft to kind of all the sun bow stuff 117 00:04:31,230 --> 00:04:32,230 And he had a tuin 118 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:34,750 His contracts said he got sole credit no matter what 119 00:04:35,070 --> 00:04:36,910 And margaret lash 120 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:37,950 Yeah 121 00:04:37,950 --> 00:04:38,630 Oh yeah 122 00:04:38,630 --> 00:04:39,150 Yeah 123 00:04:39,150 --> 00:04:40,950 Well they were the marthey were the marvel guys 124 00:04:40,950 --> 00:04:42,850 Jay was a great executive 125 00:04:42,850 --> 00:04:43,110 Yeah 126 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:45,270 He was jais one of my heroes 127 00:04:45,270 --> 00:04:45,650 Yeah 128 00:04:45,650 --> 00:04:47,190 Except don't think he does that anymore 129 00:04:47,190 --> 00:04:47,670 We should be 130 00:04:47,670 --> 00:04:48,550 But i think he's 131 00:04:49,030 --> 00:04:51,210 I know what he's doing now , but he's uh , yeah 132 00:04:51,210 --> 00:04:55,490 I get emails to send like cool piece of music that he writes and stuff like that . chase great 133 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,750 I want you to make a special run to autobot city on earth 134 00:04:59,750 --> 00:05:00,580 I love them 135 00:05:00,580 --> 00:05:03,180 How the voices , how they treated the voices a little bit 136 00:05:03,180 --> 00:05:03,660 Yeah 137 00:05:03,660 --> 00:05:05,320 We used this is very metallic 138 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:05,620 Yeah 139 00:05:05,620 --> 00:05:06,840 It's called a vocoder 140 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,980 And he'd put a sound effect in under the voice 141 00:05:08,980 --> 00:05:10,900 I mean peter colin was just perfect 142 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:11,300 Yes 143 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:13,140 As his voice cut through optimus 144 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:13,400 Yeah 145 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,460 Yeah , he was great 146 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:17,000 It was great because in some cases 147 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,640 You'd hire a famous actor and then they process the voice 148 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:21,920 And yeah , those guys 149 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,400 So they ran sun boat 150 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:24,760 Those guys were great 151 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:25,620 I mean , they were 152 00:05:25,620 --> 00:05:29,070 You know , no small part responsible for everything to do with the transformers 153 00:05:29,070 --> 00:05:30,990 So we'll find somebody say something bad about 154 00:05:30,990 --> 00:05:34,230 But thus far i haven't seen anybody that bumble bein spike here 155 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:39,180 We're about to send up set to come back in your area 156 00:05:39,180 --> 00:05:41,440 All clear a night 157 00:05:41,990 --> 00:05:42,550 Yeah 158 00:05:42,550 --> 00:05:45,530 Well , you know the time we are all this is , uh 159 00:05:45,530 --> 00:05:47,150 An animation by hand 160 00:05:47,150 --> 00:05:51,560 You know , so across the galaxy will do sp 161 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,810 Yeah , it's almost unthinking about just how much work that is to dry every single frame home 162 00:05:55,810 --> 00:05:56,470 Yeah , yeah 163 00:05:56,470 --> 00:05:58,030 It's just and exquisite 164 00:05:58,030 --> 00:06:00,110 yeah , no two jeback then either 165 00:06:01,990 --> 00:06:03,990 Every little frame was drawn 166 00:06:03,990 --> 00:06:04,510 Oh yeah 167 00:06:04,510 --> 00:06:06,690 He saw go on by hand 168 00:06:06,690 --> 00:06:07,250 No 169 00:06:07,650 --> 00:06:08,370 There we go 170 00:06:08,370 --> 00:06:11,130 There goes . the shuttle need is a little eneron 171 00:06:11,130 --> 00:06:13,090 And a lot of luck 172 00:06:14,110 --> 00:06:16,710 Oh we're gonna find out the deceptikinds or wow 173 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:20,990 Hernelson nelson nelson , a wonderful director 174 00:06:21,030 --> 00:06:21,990 Thank you 175 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,920 Laser peak returns make a charm 176 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,730 Welcome laser peak 177 00:06:26,730 --> 00:06:27,300 Yeah 178 00:06:27,300 --> 00:06:31,340 There's mega tron that frank walker by frank walker 179 00:06:31,340 --> 00:06:33,460 Who did every other like i was extraordinary 180 00:06:33,460 --> 00:06:33,820 Yeah 181 00:06:33,820 --> 00:06:34,700 Yeah 182 00:06:35,100 --> 00:06:36,500 As i say it in the other 183 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:39,500 The other commentary that basically you have frank say , you know , hey 184 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:41,970 Want you sound like a blender and a lawn mo 185 00:06:41,970 --> 00:06:42,320 Yeah 186 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:43,640 And twelve ducks at the same time 187 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:43,980 Yeah 188 00:06:43,980 --> 00:06:44,240 Right 189 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,760 And it's tha little aquarium 190 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,400 And he would somehow come out with something that sounded like that 191 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,840 We don't have enough energy cubes to power a full scale assault 192 00:06:53,430 --> 00:06:55,950 This is , uh , you know , this scan 193 00:06:55,950 --> 00:06:56,810 Look at scan 194 00:06:56,810 --> 00:07:03,380 You know , just , uh , of no that time to buy hands to prime 195 00:07:03,380 --> 00:07:06,000 Well , what's funny is , is various different times in this movie 196 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,860 You can just see how much technologies change 197 00:07:07,860 --> 00:07:09,080 I mean , you 198 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:11,880 The viewers now even know what a cassette tape is 199 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,900 I guess we still have boom boxes for very few though 200 00:07:15,900 --> 00:07:16,260 Yeah 201 00:07:16,260 --> 00:07:16,660 Yeah 202 00:07:16,660 --> 00:07:18,580 You tell , tell thomas an ipod 203 00:07:18,780 --> 00:07:21,940 You see the old the affects the , uh , you like , um 204 00:07:22,110 --> 00:07:25,990 Bluish look , you not propriate that's from the decepticon 205 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:26,550 You know 206 00:07:27,230 --> 00:07:27,750 Yeah 207 00:07:27,750 --> 00:07:29,790 Desceptan is a different color 208 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,240 But like , uh 209 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Autobots has an orange color into it 210 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,180 You know , right 211 00:07:36,180 --> 00:07:36,920 Yeah 212 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:41,580 That's the cancel of the color for this movie 213 00:07:41,580 --> 00:07:43,820 Sure , because it would be difficult to keep them apart 214 00:07:43,820 --> 00:07:47,140 Sometimes when they were warning and fighting 215 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,960 There's star scream . he's he's probably my favorite transformer 216 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,380 Why , uh , i just always like you 217 00:07:57,380 --> 00:07:58,620 Such a treacherous swine 218 00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:01,440 And i have always very amused watching chris laugha do his voice 219 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,430 And chris lana was perfect for that voice 220 00:08:04,430 --> 00:08:05,230 Wasn't he ? yeah 221 00:08:05,230 --> 00:08:06,810 Much easier 222 00:08:06,810 --> 00:08:11,270 Almighty megaton that attacking the real threat 223 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:13,450 The autobots move base 224 00:08:13,650 --> 00:08:15,930 You're an idiot star cream 225 00:08:16,250 --> 00:08:17,190 We slip 226 00:08:17,190 --> 00:08:22,060 Well , we're in this scene here where megatron is about to brutally execute somebody 227 00:08:22,060 --> 00:08:25,340 And that's one of these things you have to watch in the context of 228 00:08:25,340 --> 00:08:27,100 Of animation of that period 229 00:08:27,100 --> 00:08:30,660 You didn't see people get brutally executed in animation 230 00:08:30,850 --> 00:08:32,409 And , but you know , right here 231 00:08:32,409 --> 00:08:35,130 Whos this guy is suck in sidewalk 232 00:08:35,409 --> 00:08:37,530 And you know , that was the 233 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,419 You know , that was , that was a very big deal back in those 234 00:08:40,419 --> 00:08:41,720 You know , this is what i like 235 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,080 You know , this section is beautiful 236 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,500 Is this your favorite sequence here 237 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:45,820 Yeah 238 00:08:45,820 --> 00:08:48,090 You know , like , uh , the daniel 239 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:50,730 And the first time we , we can see a few 240 00:08:50,730 --> 00:08:52,510 Few men , you know , right 241 00:08:52,510 --> 00:08:56,270 So , oh hands , transformers always look great next to humans 242 00:08:56,270 --> 00:08:57,730 I always like him while they in their hands 243 00:08:57,730 --> 00:08:59,190 You really can see the size 244 00:08:59,190 --> 00:08:59,650 Yeah 245 00:08:59,650 --> 00:09:01,890 How big they are next you forget to daniel 246 00:09:01,890 --> 00:09:02,210 Yeah 247 00:09:02,210 --> 00:09:04,230 Look at , listen to the this dialogue here 248 00:09:04,230 --> 00:09:05,510 You know it 249 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,160 That's judnelson 250 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:11,440 Yeah 251 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:11,920 that's 252 00:09:13,610 --> 00:09:15,610 Hot rod . the shuttle is coming 253 00:09:15,610 --> 00:09:16,810 Let's watch it land 254 00:09:17,210 --> 00:09:19,490 Talk about doll daniel 255 00:09:19,650 --> 00:09:21,630 That was a real little boy . wasn't it yeah 256 00:09:21,630 --> 00:09:22,890 Who played that 257 00:09:24,190 --> 00:09:26,730 Well , daniel is the name of job calls son 258 00:09:26,730 --> 00:09:28,790 Who is younger than that at the time 259 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:32,050 And uh , really i don't know that that's why he got that name 260 00:09:32,050 --> 00:09:32,990 But they uh 261 00:09:32,990 --> 00:09:33,340 Yeah 262 00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:34,670 I wish they had those 263 00:09:34,670 --> 00:09:36,290 Well , they kind of have those blades now 264 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:38,000 Those electric blades that you can 265 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,550 You know , two thousand five 266 00:09:39,550 --> 00:09:40,710 Since this is two thousand five 267 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:42,690 It's too bad they don't have stuff like that 268 00:09:42,690 --> 00:09:43,000 Yeah 269 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,840 Well you please have those in video games 270 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Look at that . look at the transforming 271 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:48,360 You know that transforming in mid areas 272 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,230 Like jumping and transforming fire in your heart is great 273 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:53,210 Look at that 274 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:54,960 Why settle for a peak 275 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Daniel 276 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,400 Who you can see everything from lookout mountain 277 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,740 Look out mountain 278 00:10:00,740 --> 00:10:02,120 Yeah 279 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:02,960 That's great 280 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,800 They getting up to that 281 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,900 You know , to look up the mountain 282 00:10:07,900 --> 00:10:09,880 Ha ha ha 283 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:11,440 Yeah 284 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,960 What's funny you listen to the soundtrack here , you know 285 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,560 And this you can tell us it's just really it's getting eighties piece 286 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:19,880 I mean this whole thing just feels really eighties 287 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,360 And i i mean that in the most affection of possibly absolutely 288 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,750 I love with these guys have done with the color in the 289 00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:27,220 Look at this , look at that sky 290 00:10:27,220 --> 00:10:27,820 Yeah 291 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:29,320 Yeah 292 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,380 This , this version of it actually looks better 293 00:10:31,380 --> 00:10:33,080 You know , than , than film could look that 294 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,040 I mean , they they've really done a lot nice stuff with the color 295 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,920 and they fixed the sound track five point one now 296 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:41,420 Because i remember there some 297 00:10:41,420 --> 00:10:43,160 You know , the , uh , the effects 298 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,940 You know , effects coming in from , right 299 00:10:45,940 --> 00:10:47,320 You know , the like a 300 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,460 The orange color from all autobot 301 00:10:50,460 --> 00:10:53,590 A purple color from the decepticon is bad guys 302 00:10:53,590 --> 00:10:54,070 You know 303 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:55,150 So you can see 304 00:10:55,270 --> 00:10:56,830 You can see there was a difference 305 00:10:56,830 --> 00:10:57,470 You know 306 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:02,340 you know what's kind of cold 307 00:11:02,340 --> 00:11:05,960 We do as you look at the transformers spaces there's a real kind of nobility 308 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,910 And sort of angelicenness to them 309 00:11:08,910 --> 00:11:11,310 Which is kind of fun because they have actual characters 310 00:11:11,310 --> 00:11:12,830 But at the same time you just look at them 311 00:11:12,830 --> 00:11:15,310 And they look like , you know , iconic 312 00:11:16,270 --> 00:11:20,310 Can't believe you can't live 313 00:11:20,370 --> 00:11:23,450 I love the soundtrack too with it . it's so eighties 314 00:11:23,450 --> 00:11:23,650 Yes 315 00:11:23,650 --> 00:11:25,810 Yes , i say . and this is eighties stadium morocq 316 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:28,490 I mean i don't even know what the pelime does that stuff it's sound bring 317 00:11:28,490 --> 00:11:30,510 Eighties stadium moroc yeah , yeah 318 00:11:31,270 --> 00:11:34,830 This is it's kind of like the amped power ballads and it's great 319 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:38,020 哼, not bad for an old timer 320 00:11:38,060 --> 00:11:39,500 Old timer 321 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:40,920 Yes 322 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:46,450 Lionel standard . he did a great job with that voice is what's great about cup is he's constantly 323 00:11:46,450 --> 00:11:49,040 You know , talking about the old campaigns 324 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,180 He's kind of like the 325 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:52,120 You know , a crusty old guy 326 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:52,520 Yeah 327 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,820 I love through throughout the movie how he talks about he's always telling the story 328 00:11:55,820 --> 00:11:57,540 And daniels always wanting to hear him 329 00:11:58,100 --> 00:11:58,860 What i yeah 330 00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:01,510 What's what's interesting about it is that the way 331 00:12:01,510 --> 00:12:03,750 You merged the humanness of these characters 332 00:12:03,750 --> 00:12:06,590 And the technology geness of them are they 333 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:09,060 I don't think technology this is a word 334 00:12:09,060 --> 00:12:09,940 But you get what i'm saying it 335 00:12:09,940 --> 00:12:13,670 Did that you can there's no real logic to , uh 336 00:12:13,670 --> 00:12:16,690 You know , a crusty old robot with a husky voice 337 00:12:16,690 --> 00:12:19,090 But it all seemed to work and make a lot of sense 338 00:12:19,090 --> 00:12:20,640 Oh there's the pink one 339 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:21,220 Yeah 340 00:12:21,220 --> 00:12:22,700 Oh that is a pink woh 341 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:23,940 Wait my all right . pk one 342 00:12:23,940 --> 00:12:25,100 Sue just made her debut 343 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:27,040 And and all right , all right 344 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,080 He's looking for sue too 345 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,120 He can't find her 346 00:12:30,490 --> 00:12:31,970 Oh there we are 347 00:12:31,970 --> 00:12:34,590 There is the one and only to the best of my knowledge 348 00:12:34,590 --> 00:12:37,530 Girl transformer that had ever been made up to that period 349 00:12:37,530 --> 00:12:38,570 That is rc 350 00:12:40,340 --> 00:12:47,230 And the nice thing that suu can do is she can settle this controversy is to whether springer seen in that shot or , uh 351 00:12:47,230 --> 00:12:48,050 Hot rod 352 00:12:48,050 --> 00:12:49,850 Who may or may not have been aptly named 353 00:12:49,850 --> 00:12:50,210 Well 354 00:12:50,210 --> 00:12:51,590 I was really your boyfriend 355 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:53,130 Well , i was pretty monogamous 356 00:12:53,130 --> 00:12:55,060 But in the movie 357 00:12:55,060 --> 00:12:56,700 I was pretty turned on to hot rod 358 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:57,700 I gotta tell you 359 00:12:57,700 --> 00:12:59,820 And i think during the series 360 00:12:59,980 --> 00:13:02,380 Then look at i'm really good at . yeah 361 00:13:02,380 --> 00:13:02,580 Yeah 362 00:13:02,580 --> 00:13:05,320 I mean you and springer definitely hanging out in the miwe were yeah 363 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Springer and and arc 364 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,360 We hung out together 365 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,400 I liked him a lot 366 00:13:11,050 --> 00:13:13,130 I could have gotten yeah 367 00:13:13,130 --> 00:13:14,970 Some could have worked out there well 368 00:13:15,010 --> 00:13:18,000 but what is interesting about this is that a lot of times 369 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,840 The actors would know things and have insights into the characters that , you know 370 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,280 We never did when we are writing it 371 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,590 Or , yeah 372 00:13:24,590 --> 00:13:25,490 Or you all that 373 00:13:25,490 --> 00:13:27,510 Because the actor was doing the character all the time 374 00:13:27,510 --> 00:13:29,710 wherewe were wrangling one hundred and twenty five guys 375 00:13:29,710 --> 00:13:31,590 And it was enough to just remember who they were 376 00:13:32,060 --> 00:13:34,580 Would you ever hear the actress talk to you about 377 00:13:34,810 --> 00:13:36,390 What they thought their characters 378 00:13:36,390 --> 00:13:38,450 What would be fun if where their character 379 00:13:38,450 --> 00:13:41,450 ars would go to and stuff like that all the time once 380 00:13:41,450 --> 00:13:45,990 What one thing i really changed when we're doing the show was is when i first got into animation 381 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:48,410 Owen say it was a degraded business 382 00:13:48,410 --> 00:13:49,790 That would be a rough way to put it 383 00:13:49,790 --> 00:13:52,760 But it was a very set tdown fixed business 384 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,520 You know , he had like 385 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,780 Oh wait , nelson one says 386 00:13:54,780 --> 00:13:55,140 Yeah 387 00:13:55,140 --> 00:13:59,480 You know , this is a whole city changing into the , uh , fighting mode 388 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:00,940 This is a city 389 00:14:00,940 --> 00:14:02,660 But the changing to , uh 390 00:14:02,660 --> 00:14:06,000 Like is that is that tune tuna supreme there or mega supreme there 391 00:14:06,050 --> 00:14:06,590 Yeah 392 00:14:06,590 --> 00:14:07,910 You know , may may try 393 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:09,370 And you know , this is 394 00:14:09,370 --> 00:14:11,530 This is a close , close staff 395 00:14:11,890 --> 00:14:12,450 Yeah 396 00:14:12,450 --> 00:14:17,270 This is decept consent of the bug to the eat up the metal 397 00:14:17,270 --> 00:14:18,270 So they can get in 398 00:14:18,270 --> 00:14:20,870 You know , this is all the hard rod 399 00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:24,350 And they , they come into the tried to help 400 00:14:24,350 --> 00:14:26,750 You know , i never noticed that bit before 401 00:14:28,530 --> 00:14:31,250 Oh it what we're saying before was it was that , yeah 402 00:14:31,250 --> 00:14:32,570 A lot of times the actors 403 00:14:32,570 --> 00:14:36,470 You know , that didn't happen earlier in my animation career because yeah 404 00:14:36,470 --> 00:14:38,550 It was all , so set down wherever 405 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:41,530 So this is all , all attack from the , uh , decepticon 406 00:14:41,530 --> 00:14:42,830 You know , this one 407 00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:54,510 Both to make the sense orders to contact up to his prime on moon baseball that's paul hein's voice 408 00:14:54,510 --> 00:14:55,490 I can hear it anywhere 409 00:14:55,490 --> 00:14:58,510 Kinda have that aboidal great quality to it 410 00:15:00,310 --> 00:15:01,710 And we got a lot of times 411 00:15:01,710 --> 00:15:04,990 We just let the actors just sort of riff off what they felt that 412 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:05,750 Yeah 413 00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:05,870 Yeah 414 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:07,910 What the character would say is supposed to whatever 415 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:09,330 Whatever actually hit the page 416 00:15:09,330 --> 00:15:12,230 And a lot of it first got a lot of resistance 417 00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:16,550 Because there's a lot of resistance early on from producers to change anything in the script 418 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:18,110 And then later on 419 00:15:18,110 --> 00:15:21,010 You know , they just get used to the way we were we yeah 420 00:15:21,710 --> 00:15:22,470 These are great 421 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:24,510 No , you know the , uh , all the details 422 00:15:24,510 --> 00:15:27,020 You can you can see that time there 423 00:15:27,020 --> 00:15:28,780 We use all high technique 424 00:15:28,780 --> 00:15:30,400 You know , it is a twenty years ago 425 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:30,920 Yeah 426 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,410 But you know , whatever you see , you know that's all new 427 00:15:34,410 --> 00:15:36,090 We created as a new 428 00:15:36,210 --> 00:15:39,370 Uh , effects and animation and the , uh 429 00:15:39,370 --> 00:15:44,060 The castle of the , uh , background and , uh , just every day 430 00:15:44,060 --> 00:15:44,900 You know this 431 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:45,420 Yeah 432 00:15:45,730 --> 00:15:47,730 No . is this this is totally different 433 00:15:47,730 --> 00:15:48,730 I mean you brought a certain amount 434 00:15:48,730 --> 00:15:52,420 Animated the party that had never been there before . u yeah 435 00:15:52,420 --> 00:15:53,580 You never . yeah 436 00:15:53,580 --> 00:15:56,100 it does have a certain anime feel doesn't it 437 00:15:57,270 --> 00:15:59,190 Well , you know the handsome mileage 438 00:15:59,190 --> 00:16:00,830 You know , this when withdraw this 439 00:16:00,830 --> 00:16:03,330 You know , this is , this is gigantic 440 00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:06,210 There are so many people working day night 441 00:16:06,210 --> 00:16:06,850 You know 442 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,040 Yeah 443 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:09,320 I love the detail there 444 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,030 Like having little , two little guys blast in each other way 445 00:16:12,030 --> 00:16:14,580 My mom , you got receptor getting up in the background 446 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:18,870 And also we have the highlighting and also the , uh , uh , shading 447 00:16:19,270 --> 00:16:22,290 So it's so three different color 448 00:16:22,290 --> 00:16:25,430 You know , the value it gives us such nice step 449 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:26,350 Yeah 450 00:16:28,090 --> 00:16:29,490 Look at the all the background 451 00:16:29,490 --> 00:16:33,090 The , uh , sky , you know , sky is ua fighting more 452 00:16:33,090 --> 00:16:35,570 You know , it's not the blue sky , you know , right 453 00:16:35,570 --> 00:16:36,250 Um 454 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,960 There's some really beautiful stuff here 455 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,680 I mean , you kind of squint and look at this movie and it's , it's 456 00:16:41,740 --> 00:16:42,900 You know , not particularly here 457 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:43,900 We'll point it out later on 458 00:16:43,900 --> 00:16:45,260 It's just really are there 459 00:16:45,260 --> 00:16:47,620 So it's , it's really just artful 460 00:16:47,620 --> 00:16:50,530 And , and there's a lot of extra 461 00:16:50,530 --> 00:16:50,730 Yeah 462 00:16:50,730 --> 00:16:51,890 You see the contrast 463 00:16:51,890 --> 00:16:54,370 You know , the , uh , uh , the southern things 464 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,600 I remember this scene actually 465 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:03,000 And i had to talk as i was straining it'll come up about here 466 00:17:03,610 --> 00:17:07,650 There's daniel trying to wisn't that funny 467 00:17:07,650 --> 00:17:10,130 And of course i wasn't doing that that comes later 468 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:15,760 but so that's the that's your section two hyeah 469 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,640 i did it 470 00:17:24,339 --> 00:17:29,620 the match for the kill come hot rod look 471 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,180 oh yeah ， devastator . they were here 472 00:17:38,180 --> 00:17:40,400 Yeah , one of the first mega transformers 473 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,240 she had to put five guys together to u 474 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:48,160 one thing that , that , that to bear in mind 475 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:53,850 when you watch this is just simply sort of the work order that we had is we had all these characters 476 00:17:53,850 --> 00:17:57,770 And we had to pay off the old characters and bring in the new characters 477 00:17:57,770 --> 00:18:01,030 And you had to show every character in his robot form 478 00:18:01,030 --> 00:18:04,290 And then show every character in his transformer form 479 00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:07,250 and i don't know if anybody you're back in new york had a checklist 480 00:18:07,250 --> 00:18:11,170 And just it's just all the weird technologies that nelson had to make work 481 00:18:11,170 --> 00:18:12,370 You know , i mean , it was really easy to 482 00:18:12,370 --> 00:18:14,170 For me to write that stuff under the script 483 00:18:14,170 --> 00:18:15,180 It's quite another thing 484 00:18:15,180 --> 00:18:17,780 And so many so actually drawing him and figured out 485 00:18:17,780 --> 00:18:19,180 You know , how they , how they work 486 00:18:19,220 --> 00:18:21,830 Would you have to as a writer 487 00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:25,590 Would you and nelson ever budheads on like nelson would say 488 00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:28,110 I can't do that the way you've written that 489 00:18:28,110 --> 00:18:30,510 Or i let's we've got a we've got no 490 00:18:30,510 --> 00:18:31,950 We never discussing like that 491 00:18:31,950 --> 00:18:33,630 You know , whatever he , uh 492 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:35,790 You know , he's consulting the story 493 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:36,930 Uh 494 00:18:36,930 --> 00:18:38,710 I mean , he's a houses , uh 495 00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:41,480 You know , quite a times . and i , uh 496 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,620 His concerin trying to transmit to the , uh , uh 497 00:18:45,620 --> 00:18:47,360 Like a usual , you know 498 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:49,400 So we don't have any problems , you know 499 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,050 But just yeah , really well it well yeah 500 00:18:52,050 --> 00:18:54,450 It wasn't wasn't like there was there's butting hi mean 501 00:18:54,450 --> 00:18:57,660 You know , our issues that were so much about just macro plot 502 00:18:57,660 --> 00:19:00,780 Issues that i don't think there was any budding heads on what things would look like 503 00:19:00,780 --> 00:19:03,340 I don't think any of us ever disagreed on that that , that i 504 00:19:03,340 --> 00:19:05,260 And it always looked better and better 505 00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:06,840 When i saw the stuff than the 506 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,260 You know , when i saw the boards and stuff 507 00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:11,700 Than it looked in my head that i was you just always really hard 508 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:12,700 It's thrilled to see it 509 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:14,020 Yeah , dino buds 510 00:19:15,310 --> 00:19:17,630 They were cool characters . design a bot 511 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,740 Yeah grim lock was just wonderfully stupid stopped 512 00:19:22,740 --> 00:19:24,720 Yeah greg burger played grim lock 513 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:25,520 They were great 514 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,160 All those guys here 515 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:29,360 Here we go 516 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:30,280 Here comes the big song 517 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,600 Here comes optimisis power ride 518 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,920 this is the song i like 519 00:19:35,940 --> 00:19:36,520 All right 520 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,540 Well let's take care of this optimist prime trailer issue one time and for all 521 00:19:40,540 --> 00:19:40,800 Okay 522 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,180 Nobody figured out what to do with this trailer 523 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,480 We , you know , we tried everything from his trailer 524 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,800 Just kind of folded up and rolled behind him 525 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,720 But at the end of the day 526 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,880 You just kind of had to make the trailer disappear 527 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,090 It just , it was made of , uh , disappeum 528 00:19:55,330 --> 00:19:56,850 Which was a cybertiny 529 00:19:56,850 --> 00:20:00,080 An element that just made the trailer disappear 530 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,640 You know , they just , they just couldn't figure out how to deal with it 531 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,110 But it fortunately reappears so optimists can take more familiar form 532 00:20:06,110 --> 00:20:07,010 I love this scene 533 00:20:07,010 --> 00:20:10,090 Who optimist is making his , his death run 534 00:20:10,090 --> 00:20:11,810 You know , and last heroic moment 535 00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:16,540 I hate you're not one shall stand 536 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:18,980 One shall fall 537 00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:22,230 Why throw away your life so recklessly 538 00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:24,750 That's a question you should ask yourself 539 00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:26,070 Megatron 540 00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:26,510 Yeah 541 00:20:26,510 --> 00:20:29,230 This is , i still hear about this scene 542 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:38,020 I got to help prime stay away lad that's prime fight 543 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:41,700 What are we twenty minutes in now 544 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:43,190 And , uh 545 00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:45,490 And optimist prime is 546 00:20:45,490 --> 00:20:47,550 Uh , hope i'm not running for anybody 547 00:20:47,550 --> 00:20:52,420 But nobody watches the listen to the commenter before they watch the moves the first time 548 00:20:52,570 --> 00:20:55,370 And , and we're about to kill an icon here 549 00:20:55,370 --> 00:20:56,750 And we had no idea 550 00:20:56,750 --> 00:20:57,250 No 551 00:20:57,250 --> 00:20:59,450 As i was saying the in the other section 552 00:20:59,450 --> 00:21:02,930 We had an absolutely no idea that we were doing that 553 00:21:02,930 --> 00:21:04,410 We just thought we were getting rid of the eighty 554 00:21:04,410 --> 00:21:05,730 You know , the eighty four product line 555 00:21:05,730 --> 00:21:08,010 I mean , we knew optimist prime was , was a main character 556 00:21:08,010 --> 00:21:11,370 We didn't know that there would be kids that would be crying 557 00:21:11,370 --> 00:21:14,090 And one kid would lock himself in the room , in his room 558 00:21:14,090 --> 00:21:15,390 And it was huge 559 00:21:15,390 --> 00:21:15,810 Wasn't it 560 00:21:15,810 --> 00:21:17,100 It broke the hearts of 561 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:19,700 Oh , i didn't know i'd be sitting around two or twenty years later 562 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:23,660 You know , and at some convention and having somebody asked me why i killed optimus prime 563 00:21:23,660 --> 00:21:24,240 You know 564 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:24,970 And i , yeah 565 00:21:24,970 --> 00:21:26,170 I was acting under orders 566 00:21:26,170 --> 00:21:29,230 I mean , what was gonna fashion off pride 567 00:21:29,230 --> 00:21:30,330 Do it now 568 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,200 It was such a surprise here 569 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,520 When you thought that prime was gonna do it 570 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,960 and then he gets it done to him 571 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:41,360 Right there 572 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,400 Yeah 573 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,840 But because he has a heart , you know 574 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:47,440 Yeah 575 00:21:48,030 --> 00:21:48,590 Yeah 576 00:21:48,590 --> 00:21:52,390 He's . yeah , he's he's willing to spare even megatron 577 00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:52,590 Yeah 578 00:21:52,590 --> 00:21:56,670 Which is that's such a great even spare megatron probably observes what they get 579 00:21:56,670 --> 00:21:57,150 Oh yeah 580 00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:00,450 And there and then here's this interesting in it should beat where 581 00:22:00,490 --> 00:22:02,490 You know , rodemus had to have , you know 582 00:22:02,490 --> 00:22:05,210 A certain amount of or , or hot rod at this point 583 00:22:05,250 --> 00:22:09,170 A certain amount of guilt and complicity and optimis's death 584 00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:19,140 I would have waited an eternity for this 585 00:22:19,620 --> 00:22:21,860 it's over prime 586 00:22:39,700 --> 00:22:42,740 optimiforgive me 587 00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:49,820 How do you feel mighty mega chan 588 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:54,100 This whole relationship between these two guys said you know , you know 589 00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:57,910 Star scream when he gets his first opportunity and and mega trans down 590 00:22:57,910 --> 00:22:59,630 He's getting him big swift kicking the pants 591 00:22:59,630 --> 00:23:01,590 You know , kicking the gut nhding in 592 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,800 right here comes astro train 593 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,160 The decepticons are retreating fine 594 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,360 Did it get in the tide 595 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:26,770 Yeah 596 00:23:26,770 --> 00:23:27,670 Well , we , yeah 597 00:23:27,670 --> 00:23:29,670 This , you know , this period that we were 598 00:23:29,670 --> 00:23:30,950 You know , we were very just so 599 00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:33,950 So when people were started discovering joseph campbell and 600 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:34,870 And all that 601 00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:37,110 And we were looking for the deeper mythic structure 602 00:23:37,110 --> 00:23:39,230 And i as funny i was when i was watching last night 603 00:23:39,230 --> 00:23:41,190 Realized how much of that made it in here 604 00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:44,810 You know , and that this story is really about a transition of power 605 00:23:44,810 --> 00:23:46,350 Much the shority of the fans 606 00:23:46,350 --> 00:23:48,430 But nevertheless it was that's that's what it was about 607 00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:54,180 Here we are , it's so quiet 608 00:23:54,180 --> 00:23:54,700 And 609 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,570 You know , optimus prime , uh , turning to , uh , gray 610 00:23:59,570 --> 00:24:00,890 You dark 611 00:24:00,890 --> 00:24:02,730 Yeah , no color , you know 612 00:24:02,810 --> 00:24:06,090 I fear the wounds are fatal 613 00:24:11,940 --> 00:24:13,420 It's a really nice moment 614 00:24:13,420 --> 00:24:15,260 now prime you can't die 615 00:24:17,220 --> 00:24:18,740 Do not grieve 616 00:24:20,300 --> 00:24:25,150 Soon i shall be one with the matrix 617 00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:28,050 Yeah , we wish we trademark the matrix at the time 618 00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:30,190 But it happen the way boy 619 00:24:31,010 --> 00:24:36,010 Ultra magnus it it is to you , old friend 620 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:41,800 I shall pass the matrix of leadership there's some interesting foreshadowing 621 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,320 This is real sordan stone 622 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,210 You know , kind of stuff 623 00:24:45,210 --> 00:24:46,490 I'm just a soldier 624 00:24:46,490 --> 00:24:49,090 I i'm not worthy 625 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:51,190 Nor was i 626 00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:56,950 But one day a not a buyou'll rise from our ranks 627 00:24:57,660 --> 00:25:01,460 And used the power of the matrix 628 00:25:01,940 --> 00:25:05,730 To light our darkest horror 629 00:25:06,130 --> 00:25:08,810 Yeah , and the thing i rip that off from winston churchill 630 00:25:09,730 --> 00:25:12,570 Here comes and watch interesting thing happens here 631 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:22,300 We had a lot of debates to exactly what the auabout matrix lies until that day 632 00:25:23,070 --> 00:25:25,190 till all are one 633 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,120 There are now look who catches it here's our foreshadowing here 634 00:25:33,870 --> 00:25:36,070 He catches it , but it's not for him 635 00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:37,870 But we kind of get in a sense 636 00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:40,710 That maybe arthur has pulled the sword out of the stone here 637 00:25:41,230 --> 00:25:44,070 But no , he has he's given adultramagnets 638 00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:45,910 And this is , you know , it's almost biblical 639 00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:48,850 You know , that the the false one comes first 640 00:25:48,850 --> 00:25:52,100 And yet ultramagnets is a is extremely noble guy 641 00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:53,740 But he's just not noice 642 00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:56,220 It falls out when he tries to put it in his chest 643 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,040 Yeah 644 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:16,400 I think part of the problem with killing optimist prime was we just took so long doing it 645 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,220 You know , and you know , we have his eyes go out and he turns grin 646 00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:21,740 His head falls sideways 647 00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:25,740 I mean , if we're trying to wrench you that the every kid in america was looking looking a lot like 648 00:26:25,740 --> 00:26:26,400 But you know 649 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,260 But you know , flint and they loved it in the theatres 650 00:26:29,260 --> 00:26:31,140 I mean , this is to take that long 651 00:26:31,380 --> 00:26:34,640 What that was the longest destene in the history of of drama 652 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,520 It shocked people 653 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,760 It really shocked people 654 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,400 Because in those days in animation 655 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,110 It was either really squishy children and stuff 656 00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:43,190 Or it was really politically correct 657 00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:45,010 You know , television stuff 658 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,880 And the idea you're gonna say 659 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,640 Or it was it was franchise based 660 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,600 And you never kill the main character off in your franchise 661 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,960 Oh here's astro train 662 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:54,400 Yeah 663 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,120 This is one of those things where okay 664 00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:57,800 We ignored science 665 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,240 We we , we didn't interest us that there's no gravity in space 666 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,640 And therefore he can't weigh too much 667 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,860 We just need a way to flush , uh 668 00:27:06,860 --> 00:27:08,230 or you'll see what happens 669 00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:13,430 And against hey 670 00:27:13,470 --> 00:27:17,630 The eyes have it this , this is leading in my favorite scene in the movie 671 00:27:17,630 --> 00:27:18,310 Yeah 672 00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:22,270 So they start , they start chucking these guys out 673 00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:23,060 Yeah 674 00:27:23,060 --> 00:27:25,840 That can be that's what's just so deceptive car now 675 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:31,130 Now mega try this , this whole character relationship we building up for seasons wa 676 00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:33,370 I still function 677 00:27:33,810 --> 00:27:39,460 What a b that's that's just chris lanta and star scream at their best 678 00:27:39,460 --> 00:27:41,820 I mean that's just unbelievable 679 00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:44,240 Yeah , it's you it's just wonderful stuff 680 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,620 And got to do it to mega try 681 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:48,860 And what he's been sneaking around and angling to do for two years 682 00:27:48,860 --> 00:27:50,380 He was such a benedict arnold 683 00:27:50,380 --> 00:27:52,780 Yeah , as the new leader 684 00:27:52,780 --> 00:27:54,960 Wait the constructor conform 685 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,160 Oh , i love how they get into a fight here now for robot 686 00:27:58,510 --> 00:28:04,150 Well , because they're decepa bunch of perception and damong the ranks 687 00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:09,760 The boyarguing with everybody else would follow an uncharismatic pool like you 688 00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:12,430 And along with gravity among the things 689 00:28:12,430 --> 00:28:15,230 We also didn't worry about with scale when it was inconvenient 690 00:28:15,230 --> 00:28:16,670 The video cassettes were tiny 691 00:28:16,670 --> 00:28:18,670 These guys popped out and they were huge 692 00:28:18,780 --> 00:28:21,160 When we are when we want video consets to be big 693 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,900 You know , you know , really 694 00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:24,430 We didn't care about that and what's funny 695 00:28:24,430 --> 00:28:27,950 it never seem to bother anybody else i never even caught it 696 00:28:53,860 --> 00:28:56,380 Welcome , you know , actually the , uh 697 00:28:56,660 --> 00:29:00,240 What we try to do this effects 698 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,400 You know , this here 699 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,380 This means the , uh , uh , he's talking 700 00:29:04,380 --> 00:29:06,000 You know , the union on t 701 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:11,670 The , the taking like , uh , coming sound from the speaker , right 702 00:29:11,670 --> 00:29:14,970 Like , you know , it's physical force to it , uhh 703 00:29:15,450 --> 00:29:18,330 Usource and wells , you know , we know 704 00:29:20,430 --> 00:29:22,710 When orson wells came into the studio 705 00:29:22,710 --> 00:29:22,950 Yeah 706 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:24,910 I mean the day before wally burr 707 00:29:24,910 --> 00:29:26,880 Played us this tape of orson wells 708 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,150 You know , you know , ripping some poor 709 00:29:29,150 --> 00:29:31,330 You know , he was being difficult in the session 710 00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:32,610 Oh man , was that harsh 711 00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:32,770 Yeah 712 00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:32,890 Yeah 713 00:29:32,890 --> 00:29:35,650 There's a famous tape of him selling peas 714 00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:36,210 Exactly 715 00:29:36,210 --> 00:29:36,690 Yes 716 00:29:36,690 --> 00:29:37,270 Yeah 717 00:29:37,270 --> 00:29:39,850 It's it's it's like , you know , some bad moment 718 00:29:39,850 --> 00:29:42,550 Peas or smells . right , right 719 00:29:42,550 --> 00:29:44,250 And , and he was really honked off 720 00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:46,470 And we all worried that we were gonna arripped 721 00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:50,180 And instead the most just pleasant charismatic 722 00:29:50,180 --> 00:29:53,220 Great guy came in nothing to fear 723 00:29:53,220 --> 00:29:57,700 I have already crushed optimuspying with my bare hands 724 00:29:58,050 --> 00:29:59,290 I , i'll tell you this 725 00:29:59,290 --> 00:30:01,590 You know , this is special effects in here 726 00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:03,830 This is the way we , uh 727 00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:06,110 We exposed three , four times 728 00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:11,540 You know it's not not just only the over , over the , uh , picture 729 00:30:11,540 --> 00:30:13,160 You know that we have to expose 730 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Expose , expose in four times 731 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,540 You know 732 00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:16,540 Oh , that's great 733 00:30:16,540 --> 00:30:17,140 Well 734 00:30:17,470 --> 00:30:19,850 Oh sure as you we are right ? like right there 735 00:30:19,850 --> 00:30:20,070 Yeah 736 00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:20,230 Yeah 737 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:21,590 You know that's like , uh 738 00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:23,430 Pling the , uh , light 739 00:30:23,550 --> 00:30:25,430 This all exposed the , uh 740 00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:27,390 Maybe for or five times 741 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:30,240 哎, that was not done with computers 742 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,080 No , no 743 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,560 The time that was done in hand that's the thing 744 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,280 He had to have actual expertise 745 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:35,640 You know 746 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,160 Yeah , yeah 747 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,700 To have talent long to nobody 748 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:42,060 perhaps i miss judge sho 749 00:30:43,310 --> 00:30:47,430 Proceeds in your way to oblivion 750 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:48,480 What 751 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,160 What's interesting here is you have two scenes back to back 752 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,540 where megatrons getting dissed by people in first 753 00:30:54,540 --> 00:30:57,010 He's getting betrayed by star scream 754 00:30:57,010 --> 00:30:59,340 Then he's getting a wedggy from unicorn 755 00:30:59,340 --> 00:31:00,970 And uh , yeah 756 00:31:00,970 --> 00:31:03,110 He , he , he just keeps on going 757 00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:04,930 And he's sitting around trying to figure out 758 00:31:04,930 --> 00:31:07,210 How he's gonna become the most powerful guy in the world 759 00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:09,090 All anyway , back doors and wells 760 00:31:09,090 --> 00:31:09,170 Yeah 761 00:31:09,170 --> 00:31:11,210 I came in and he weighed like four hundred pounds 762 00:31:11,210 --> 00:31:13,980 He said i , i here i playing an entire planet 763 00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,660 He he looked like an entire planet 764 00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:16,780 Oh , i can imagine , huh 765 00:31:16,780 --> 00:31:19,020 And he was not in very good health 766 00:31:19,020 --> 00:31:21,510 But he was extremely sweet , pleasant 767 00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:22,990 You know what we did , you know 768 00:31:22,990 --> 00:31:23,390 Yeah 769 00:31:23,390 --> 00:31:25,150 He , uh , rees through the line 770 00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:26,730 And after that we , uh 771 00:31:26,730 --> 00:31:30,690 We tried to put synthesize and make his voices stronger 772 00:31:31,090 --> 00:31:32,210 And that's what we did 773 00:31:32,210 --> 00:31:32,810 Yeah 774 00:31:32,810 --> 00:31:33,220 Yeah 775 00:31:33,220 --> 00:31:34,040 He was kind of wising 776 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,240 Remember that there was he he , he was yet he died 777 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,720 I think , you know , two weeks or i've heard vying numbers amounts of time 778 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,900 But like two weeks after we burin 779 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:42,350 Yeah 780 00:31:42,350 --> 00:31:44,130 I mean , we knew we got him on the right way 781 00:31:44,690 --> 00:31:46,690 And he's our mother 782 00:31:47,660 --> 00:31:48,700 You know it's amazing 783 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:49,900 He did the two most 784 00:31:50,390 --> 00:31:54,090 I mean , think of , you know , war of the world's , uh , uh 785 00:31:54,090 --> 00:31:55,650 Citizen came in his film , of course 786 00:31:55,650 --> 00:31:57,790 And then the voice in war of the worlds 787 00:31:57,790 --> 00:32:00,080 And then , oh , he made , yeah 788 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,260 He made quite a quite arguably the best movie anybody's ever made 789 00:32:03,260 --> 00:32:04,600 The most memorable 790 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,640 You know , memorable , uh , radio broadcast . anybody's ever done 791 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,480 Yeah , yeah 792 00:32:09,910 --> 00:32:12,990 And of course you exceeded all that by doing the transformer exactly 793 00:32:12,990 --> 00:32:15,230 That was the uka gra 794 00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:15,470 Yeah 795 00:32:15,470 --> 00:32:17,700 It was well what's 796 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:19,880 What's interesting about it is that , uh 797 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,460 You know , he , he , he actually worked very well for it 798 00:32:22,460 --> 00:32:25,990 I remember where are you job a call saying at the time that 799 00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:28,680 When you hire famous people at a certain level 800 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:29,840 You're going from our key value 801 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,110 But it's not only we thought kids have come racing into the movie to see yours and wells 802 00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:34,540 That the reality is , yeah 803 00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:37,020 You , you have to hire them for what they bring to the party 804 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:40,020 Get on with a ceremony 805 00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:46,260 Yeah , i like these treacherous losers and star screams trying to get himself crowned 806 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,440 Look at that . ha ha 807 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,720 You see the ubof the all you know there's such good comedy in that 808 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,500 Yeah , yeah , he's got a cape on e 809 00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:04,580 Who disrupts my coronation 810 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,920 Coronation star scream 811 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,180 This is bad comedy 812 00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:14,640 Metron , is that you here's a hint 813 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,760 And there's leonard nemo 814 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:16,960 Yeah 815 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:17,900 It's not an name way 816 00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:18,200 Yeah 817 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,320 He's transformed from megatron in two 818 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,800 You know , if you think about it was kind what this whole story is about 819 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,040 And it's a lot about what movies should be more about than they are now 820 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,080 It's about transition . now we were doing it 821 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,840 Because we were trying to transition out one line of toys for another 822 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,640 But interestingly enough , as you watch this now 823 00:33:35,420 --> 00:33:36,060 Yeah 824 00:33:36,060 --> 00:33:41,480 You can almost interpret it as character growth that the here's here's galvatron and he is megatron 825 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,240 But he's more than megatron 826 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,280 And it's kind of like when gadelf came back 827 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:48,460 So he's a bad guy 828 00:33:49,340 --> 00:33:51,940 And what you're gonna see is you're gonna see the way the auto butts 829 00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:55,140 You know , transform it's not through sorcery and weird stuff 830 00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:56,180 It's , you know , they're 831 00:33:56,210 --> 00:33:59,530 They're gonna follow a leader who frankly isn't up to the job 832 00:33:59,530 --> 00:34:00,530 And they sort of all know it 833 00:34:00,530 --> 00:34:03,950 And i think , you know , all the autobots saw the matrix slipping around 834 00:34:03,950 --> 00:34:05,620 But there are of buts 835 00:34:06,260 --> 00:34:07,620 They're on the same team 836 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,480 Who cares 837 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,639 I'm more worried about where it's going 838 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,280 I love the one bought with a texan accent 839 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,120 Yeah 840 00:34:18,969 --> 00:34:19,330 Yeah 841 00:34:19,330 --> 00:34:23,730 We were very the one regional right door , regional robot 842 00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:25,170 Yeah 843 00:34:25,170 --> 00:34:26,090 We , uh 844 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:27,420 That was another thing 845 00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:28,540 We didn't worry about a lot 846 00:34:28,540 --> 00:34:29,800 We didn't worry about how you get 847 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,010 I guess we figured they're all in disguise anyway 848 00:34:33,010 --> 00:34:35,370 So they picked voices of disguise them too 849 00:34:35,370 --> 00:34:35,730 Oh yeah 850 00:34:35,730 --> 00:34:37,250 And you get twenty guys in one room 851 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:38,389 They all start sounding a life 852 00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:39,730 Well , yeah , that was really 853 00:34:39,730 --> 00:34:41,699 You have to really separate them 854 00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:41,900 Yeah 855 00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:44,300 I mean , you know that's better than , better than i do 856 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:54,760 Yeah 857 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,920 Uh , cliff jumper was played by casey kson and , uh 858 00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:02,970 We , we had a couple wrangles with him in the course of the , of the series 859 00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:06,960 We had one episode where there was a guy who was obviously moo market doe 860 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,720 This is around the time 861 00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:11,400 And the , you know , moo markai was trying to shoot down our planes and stuff 862 00:35:11,710 --> 00:35:14,630 And he was from a country called carbania 863 00:35:14,750 --> 00:35:17,750 It's kind of prophetic when you look at it back from two thousand and six 864 00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:18,820 But anyway , we had 865 00:35:18,820 --> 00:35:20,920 He was a really bad guy in case you 866 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,360 You know , thought that it was 867 00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:25,110 You know , offensive to arabs and , and all that 868 00:35:25,110 --> 00:35:27,270 And wrote a nasty letter to joe and tom 869 00:35:27,470 --> 00:35:30,070 Who , whatever their particular political beliefs on the thing 870 00:35:30,070 --> 00:35:31,030 You know , kind of supported me 871 00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:33,390 And i said , look , you get moon market happy to behave a different way 872 00:35:33,390 --> 00:35:35,310 We'll stop making cartoons about them 873 00:35:37,180 --> 00:35:39,700 Went out to talk to about rock and roll one day 874 00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:41,520 You know , because you wait around a lot 875 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:41,860 All right 876 00:35:41,860 --> 00:35:43,380 Well , do you finished the story suit 877 00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:44,020 What did you have say 878 00:35:44,020 --> 00:35:47,940 Well , he's so , you know , here he is , uh , uh , from this character 879 00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:48,360 Yeah 880 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,060 And then he shaggy and scooby 881 00:35:50,060 --> 00:35:53,540 Do you know , i mean , he was in the exact same voice 882 00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:56,980 Yeah , he , he kind of looked at me and he said , yeah 883 00:35:56,980 --> 00:35:58,860 I really like rock much 884 00:35:58,980 --> 00:35:59,840 Is that right 885 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,980 Yeah , that's okay 886 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Ha ion already did you done it wait go ha ha ha 887 00:36:12,410 --> 00:36:16,210 look it isn't even danit oh shit 888 00:36:16,210 --> 00:36:17,450 what are we gonna do now 889 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,200 They're being sued to it 890 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,650 How dare unicorn cybertron and all its moons belong to me 891 00:36:30,810 --> 00:36:33,050 You know it's wonderful to have actors 892 00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:36,370 Though be so serious to their art 893 00:36:36,370 --> 00:36:39,590 And this , i mean we believed what we were saying 894 00:36:39,590 --> 00:36:40,390 Yeah 895 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:41,390 Yeah 896 00:36:41,390 --> 00:36:42,190 No , i mean with it 897 00:36:42,190 --> 00:36:43,970 You know , we did it with with what 898 00:36:43,970 --> 00:36:45,440 There was ten percent 899 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:45,820 Yeah 900 00:36:45,820 --> 00:36:48,360 There was zero insincerity creativities 901 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,200 I mean what 902 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,500 What 903 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:50,420 Yeah , yeah . was really gay 904 00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:53,780 Great about transformers and it was different than a lot of projects 905 00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:55,980 You know , like this that you come across 906 00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:58,660 And that is and i i've just had a charm career this way 907 00:36:58,660 --> 00:37:01,720 But is these guys were really sincere 908 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:03,640 Everybody working on this project was trying no 909 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,080 There was nobody saying , oh man 910 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,320 We're doing this dog log 911 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,980 You know , saturday morning show 912 00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:10,370 And we're gonna guess we're gonna sell some toys 913 00:37:10,370 --> 00:37:10,490 Yeah 914 00:37:10,490 --> 00:37:12,570 And we pretty much flush that attitude out of the show 915 00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:14,330 As much as we could , you know , from 916 00:37:14,370 --> 00:37:17,490 You know , places where we could have been important to the show 917 00:37:17,530 --> 00:37:18,730 You ever 918 00:37:19,580 --> 00:37:22,780 No good news by people fighting over things is means to the care 919 00:37:22,780 --> 00:37:23,500 Hhh 920 00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:24,580 I love to that 921 00:37:24,580 --> 00:37:27,110 You have daniel sitting on my shoulder 922 00:37:27,110 --> 00:37:27,430 Yeah 923 00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:30,510 You know , there's that that mother instinct , the female instinct 924 00:37:30,510 --> 00:37:31,070 Yeah 925 00:37:31,070 --> 00:37:32,230 You know that's really good 926 00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:34,110 It's the size of it . l 927 00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:35,450 Yeah , and yeah 928 00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:36,630 And she's huge 929 00:37:36,670 --> 00:37:38,690 But she's she's , uh 930 00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:42,150 Got the maternal instinct to take care of that before that's really great 931 00:37:42,930 --> 00:37:43,610 That's great 932 00:37:43,610 --> 00:37:47,990 I gala tron will crush you just as megatron 933 00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:50,590 And listen to leonard's voice too 934 00:37:50,590 --> 00:37:55,070 It's it's so good . it's such a transition out of megatons voice 935 00:37:55,070 --> 00:37:57,910 It's really arch . and it's it's not misspx voice 936 00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:59,790 But you recognize it as the same character 937 00:37:59,790 --> 00:38:01,710 Yeah , for you 938 00:38:02,530 --> 00:38:03,850 Well , that's the other thing you 939 00:38:03,850 --> 00:38:05,370 We work with extremely talented people 940 00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:07,170 I mean , you realize why they're families 941 00:38:07,170 --> 00:38:09,270 And you know why you know who they are 942 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:10,690 Is they're just they're amazing 943 00:38:10,690 --> 00:38:12,570 And you better stay close to me 944 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:17,000 Okay , now you're flirting with him out here , here's the scene 945 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,840 You better stay close to me 946 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,960 Ha ha h i love 947 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,270 And they got they have the kids 948 00:38:22,270 --> 00:38:23,500 That's got a symbolic man 949 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:24,900 I don't know whether , well 950 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:26,500 The transformers can have kids 951 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,400 Oh there's a dumb old graham lock 952 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,420 Nice 953 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,920 greg burger played yeah hey yeah 954 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,780 What was interesting about transformers is , is 955 00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:42,800 Why i was a botcon one year 956 00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:44,390 And yeah 957 00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:45,570 While was signing a bunch of things 958 00:38:45,570 --> 00:38:48,490 I was asking people what's your who's your favorite transformer 959 00:38:48,490 --> 00:38:53,760 You have done some tit's embarrassing designing things . and , uh , um 960 00:38:54,280 --> 00:39:00,120 They , it was really amazingly well distributed between the different characters that they were awesome 961 00:39:00,710 --> 00:39:02,390 Some like some , some like the others 962 00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:02,590 Yeah 963 00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:03,950 And i think a lot , it just depending on 964 00:39:03,950 --> 00:39:06,250 What toy their parents had happened to get them and things like that 965 00:39:06,250 --> 00:39:06,790 But 966 00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:09,080 Yeah 967 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,340 This is where , uh 968 00:39:10,460 --> 00:39:11,420 Yeah , hot ride idea 969 00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:13,540 And this , this is also the year where i was writing this red 970 00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:15,020 The year the bears won the super bowl 971 00:39:15,020 --> 00:39:16,430 And so a lot of the 972 00:39:16,430 --> 00:39:20,530 This generation of characters is based on members of the , uh , eighty five bear team 973 00:39:21,090 --> 00:39:26,170 I can't really remember who's who was that for alter trivia that's good trivy 974 00:39:26,170 --> 00:39:26,290 Yeah 975 00:39:26,290 --> 00:39:31,270 I see here's jimmy man love for stories 976 00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:36,440 You're living one now engaged to boost is precybertron say yeah 977 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,960 Not remembering also about petro rabbits . again 978 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,400 I'll give you petrol rabbits 979 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,560 contact 980 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,000 Looks like we're shipmates squirt all right 981 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,800 but if you get space sick you're gonna walk home 982 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,440 wait don't come magnus are she's still out there 983 00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:25,800 Is there any scene that you 984 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,940 That you would artistically do differently 985 00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:28,340 Yeah 986 00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:32,020 I'm i'm looking at the idea like , u , uh , the direction 987 00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:36,180 I mean the the right and left the direction and 988 00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:38,640 Uh , hookups and the , um 989 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,220 You know , close up support not necessary 990 00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:43,780 Sometimes , you know , those kind of things i have to mention 991 00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:46,380 But you know it's not , not big deal 992 00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:47,420 You know it's so 993 00:40:48,140 --> 00:40:49,820 Uh , nicely well done 994 00:40:49,820 --> 00:40:51,280 You know , uh , like this 995 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,940 This is sky should be 996 00:40:53,050 --> 00:40:54,270 Should it be the , uh 997 00:40:54,270 --> 00:40:57,250 It has some , uh , some kind of uclouds 998 00:40:57,250 --> 00:40:59,830 But this is , uh , you know , flat 999 00:40:59,830 --> 00:41:02,130 You know that those kinds things i , i want to change 1000 00:41:02,130 --> 00:41:02,710 And 1001 00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:05,150 Uh , i want to mention , you know 1002 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,060 But you know this beautifully done 1003 00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:10,560 You know , so why , uh 1004 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,200 Picking up the background 1005 00:41:13,530 --> 00:41:17,010 Good partswoop . good part 1006 00:41:17,050 --> 00:41:17,530 Yeah 1007 00:41:17,530 --> 00:41:20,250 You see cups telling is crushed the old war stories 1008 00:41:20,510 --> 00:41:23,510 And this is all set up for this wonderful moment later on 1009 00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:25,270 Where cop's gonna say no 1010 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:29,990 I've never seen anything like this before that's when you know you're really indeed out of 1011 00:41:30,510 --> 00:41:32,070 And i thought for sure 1012 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,800 Hey cup don't you think we have better things to do now than tell old stories ? like what 1013 00:41:37,810 --> 00:41:40,810 Like maybe figure out how we're gonna rescue our friends 1014 00:41:40,810 --> 00:41:41,010 Yeah 1015 00:41:41,010 --> 00:41:44,240 The transformers was not the first toy film , uh 1016 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:45,720 Nor was it the first toy show 1017 00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:47,120 Of course , you know , he ana master 1018 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,680 The universe came ahead of time 1019 00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:52,540 And he man mashed in the universe also had a a film 1020 00:41:52,540 --> 00:41:54,260 However , it was a live action film 1021 00:41:54,260 --> 00:41:55,820 I think dolf lgren was in it 1022 00:41:55,820 --> 00:41:59,550 But don't don't , uh , make me testify to that 1023 00:41:59,820 --> 00:42:02,360 And at sun bow , we did transformers 1024 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,480 My little pony 1025 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,300 And , uh , the gi joe movies and transformer movie 1026 00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:09,420 You know , was , was 1027 00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:10,900 You know , when it came out 1028 00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:13,520 Did , you know , did not blow the front off the box office 1029 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,740 And , and you know , i think assberg got skittish for gi joe 1030 00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:18,780 And so it was dvd only released 1031 00:42:18,780 --> 00:42:19,700 I think that's what happened 1032 00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:20,900 I'm not sure about it 1033 00:42:20,940 --> 00:42:24,340 And it's it's really a film that's been discovered later on 1034 00:42:24,940 --> 00:42:27,330 Um , a a lot of the other toy shows 1035 00:42:27,330 --> 00:42:27,970 There were , you know 1036 00:42:27,970 --> 00:42:30,370 Who knows how many teenage ment ninja turtles 1037 00:42:30,370 --> 00:42:32,550 Which was really sort of the last of that era 1038 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:34,180 And was kind of an interesting toy 1039 00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:37,530 Because it was a reaction to transformers is you 1040 00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:40,850 If you remember the mid eighties was about the time that , you know , parents groups 1041 00:42:40,850 --> 00:42:42,250 You know , started being formed 1042 00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:45,320 And they were really upset about violence on tv 1043 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,140 And , you know , worried their kids were to steal f fifteen and fly me around or something 1044 00:42:49,780 --> 00:42:54,660 And , uh , so teenage mean muting inja turnals came out and to mommy 1045 00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:55,940 It looked like cute turtle 1046 00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:57,900 And what the kids saw was the ninja sword 1047 00:42:57,900 --> 00:42:59,820 And people getting , you know , whiled in a half 1048 00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:01,860 And so everybody was happy 1049 00:43:02,060 --> 00:43:04,300 And so this was , we used to call them generically 1050 00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:05,860 We call them toasters and squishes 1051 00:43:05,860 --> 00:43:10,180 You know , toasters were robotic shows that where the toaster suddenly came to life 1052 00:43:10,180 --> 00:43:12,120 And squishes were , you know , any 1053 00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:14,220 You know , girl property or really 1054 00:43:14,220 --> 00:43:15,260 You know , really soft 1055 00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:17,100 You know , wiener property that , you know , we 1056 00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:18,740 We like to make funny a fun of 1057 00:43:19,150 --> 00:43:22,050 But yet transformers was the pinnacle of a toaster show 1058 00:43:22,050 --> 00:43:24,310 Yeah , never got more toastery after that 1059 00:43:24,310 --> 00:43:29,490 Exactly what they're gonna see prepare for emergency separation that's too dangerous 1060 00:43:29,490 --> 00:43:30,870 What choice do we have 1061 00:44:00,240 --> 00:44:03,040 The autobots have been terminated 1062 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,320 Excellent 1063 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,200 And the matrix with them 1064 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,860 You know , in this whole thing with the matrix and everything this came out 1065 00:44:12,860 --> 00:44:15,360 This is twenty years before the movie matrix 1066 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,060 You know , this is , so it probably took it from this 1067 00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:20,120 Yeah 1068 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,910 Well we got it probably from , uh , combat matrix as we , uh 1069 00:44:23,910 --> 00:44:25,120 I designed a lot of games 1070 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,140 The time you always had a combat matrix 1071 00:44:27,140 --> 00:44:29,340 Which is , you know , kind of a grid that you put in a 1072 00:44:29,340 --> 00:44:30,700 Or we may not have gotten it from there 1073 00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:31,500 I don't , i don't really know 1074 00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:32,840 I'm just kind of guessing myself 1075 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,380 Made three quarters of the ship 1076 00:44:34,690 --> 00:44:37,410 Seeing as how they would have detonated four quarters 1077 00:44:37,410 --> 00:44:39,170 I think it was a good choice 1078 00:44:39,170 --> 00:44:42,820 But now how are we gonna get there in this wreck receptor 1079 00:44:42,820 --> 00:44:45,080 Your locate a place to sit down for repairs 1080 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,220 Gamble waves in this sector of space create marginal navigation probabilities 1081 00:44:49,220 --> 00:44:50,120 However 1082 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,360 Hayes , i believe i can 1083 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,740 The planet of junk is in this facility 1084 00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:57,480 Then let's go for it 1085 00:45:14,620 --> 00:45:17,020 Yeah , this is the big fish child down 1086 00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:20,500 Uh , actually , uh , this section 1087 00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:21,860 Uh 1088 00:45:21,860 --> 00:45:26,350 This is all , uh , new there's a new character we developed 1089 00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:28,350 Yeah 1090 00:45:28,350 --> 00:45:29,070 Let's say , well that's 1091 00:45:29,070 --> 00:45:31,630 One of the other funny things about transformers is 1092 00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:34,350 You know , when , when we get ourselves into a plot thole 1093 00:45:34,350 --> 00:45:36,590 You know , just about they're like big swiss army knives 1094 00:45:36,590 --> 00:45:39,030 You know , and just about anything could come flying out of his wrist 1095 00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:41,850 I mean , you know , in , in , in the world of logic 1096 00:45:41,850 --> 00:45:43,250 You would wonder how even got tied up 1097 00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:44,330 And , but those things anyway 1098 00:45:44,330 --> 00:45:46,570 If he had a bandon his wrist 1099 00:45:46,570 --> 00:45:50,900 But so by the time you find the 1100 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,520 nothing is gonna be standing away 1101 00:46:05,620 --> 00:46:08,100 酒与我一道方 1102 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,200 I am your ight 1103 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:18,020 you got the cold for all the heart we won't it all 1104 00:46:19,420 --> 00:46:21,140 we want it to ight 1105 00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:29,020 I would raid to let my tide we're gonna say dance weet joy 1106 00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:31,140 ride we won't be donight 1107 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:42,100 Cup and yes cup looking worse for the wear here 1108 00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:44,200 It's kind of actually a charming little scene 1109 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,360 Fix me sure cup right away 1110 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,000 Yeah , because this is sort of the mentor apprenticeship program for the young hero 1111 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,040 I mean , he's sort of 1112 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,300 Yeah 1113 00:46:57,300 --> 00:46:59,720 Merlin is not an entirely accurate analogy 1114 00:46:59,720 --> 00:47:00,840 But you know , he's 1115 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,880 He's sort of that now cups gotta save him 1116 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:09,850 And sort of it's one of his many steps to atoning for his responsibility for 1117 00:47:10,090 --> 00:47:11,770 For optimus death 1118 00:47:14,070 --> 00:47:15,190 Yeah , the junkids 1119 00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:17,350 Yeah , they , they were in the script really early on 1120 00:47:17,350 --> 00:47:20,230 The whole idea was that they would talk tv 1121 00:47:20,670 --> 00:47:21,950 And , uh 1122 00:47:22,650 --> 00:47:23,090 Yeah 1123 00:47:23,090 --> 00:47:26,010 We , we had a lot of different iterations of what that meant 1124 00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:29,180 Yeah , i'm not sure we ever hit quite as well as we wanted to 1125 00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:29,900 But then again 1126 00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:33,020 One of , you know , a lot of the jingles and stuff are trademarked 1127 00:47:33,020 --> 00:47:34,320 And we didn't want to get into that 1128 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,460 That battle , you know , either 1129 00:47:36,460 --> 00:47:40,020 So we , we kind of sort of clge the scene together way 1130 00:47:40,020 --> 00:47:42,500 Kind of the way that the junkions are clued together 1131 00:47:43,220 --> 00:47:46,420 Remind me to give the auto pilot a raise 1132 00:47:46,740 --> 00:47:47,700 Daniel 1133 00:47:48,460 --> 00:47:52,940 It's such a great running theme in this movie for rc to really care about 1134 00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:55,310 Um , daniel , and i love that 1135 00:47:55,310 --> 00:47:57,790 She hands the exo suit to , uh 1136 00:47:57,790 --> 00:47:59,550 His dad's exo suit to daniel 1137 00:47:59,550 --> 00:48:01,990 It's really kind of handing over the torch 1138 00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:04,500 Very , um , meaningful 1139 00:48:04,570 --> 00:48:07,050 And she also says , you know , keep practicing 1140 00:48:07,050 --> 00:48:07,610 Don't quit 1141 00:48:07,610 --> 00:48:08,390 Don't give up 1142 00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:09,330 You can do it 1143 00:48:09,330 --> 00:48:10,170 It's great 1144 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,220 It's also a light moment in the movie too 1145 00:48:13,220 --> 00:48:15,310 I think it's very u 1146 00:48:15,310 --> 00:48:17,730 Making the autobots very human 1147 00:48:17,730 --> 00:48:22,670 Uh , great human quality coming from the hearts of the autobots 1148 00:48:22,810 --> 00:48:24,010 I liked it 1149 00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:29,900 Just think about what you want to do before you do it 1150 00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:31,900 It's kind of tricky 1151 00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:32,580 Whoa 1152 00:48:32,580 --> 00:48:33,380 Ah 1153 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:35,720 Well 1154 00:48:35,720 --> 00:48:37,440 You know , as you see , uh 1155 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,400 You know , a lot of stuff there on the background 1156 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,520 And the all , all the detail for the , uh , each 1157 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,800 You know , characters 1158 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,250 You know , this is different from , uh , ah , tv series 1159 00:48:47,250 --> 00:48:50,230 Tv cities are more like symplify the line 1160 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,390 So this , this one has the lot of extra line to , you know , uh 1161 00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:56,670 You know , as , you know 1162 00:48:56,670 --> 00:48:58,830 There's a lot of pencil mileage 1163 00:48:58,990 --> 00:49:02,070 You know , taking a long time to draw 1164 00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:03,900 And , uh , also 1165 00:49:04,540 --> 00:49:05,220 Uh 1166 00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:08,990 You know , the , the highlights and the , uh , the body color 1167 00:49:08,990 --> 00:49:10,810 And we , we call their body color 1168 00:49:10,810 --> 00:49:15,510 And also also shade all the , uh , like , uh 1169 00:49:15,510 --> 00:49:21,800 Uh , shadows , you know , on airtee that they also the context shadow on the ground 1170 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,460 You know 1171 00:49:22,970 --> 00:49:24,130 That does it 1172 00:49:24,370 --> 00:49:27,050 So quite a different from , uh 1173 00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:29,910 Uh , you know , tvc is an animation 1174 00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:32,070 And , uh , the movie 1175 00:49:33,170 --> 00:49:33,730 Yeah 1176 00:49:33,730 --> 00:49:36,230 Because i remember when we were mixing the tv series 1177 00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:38,970 And they'd always projected a giant screen over at paramount 1178 00:49:38,970 --> 00:49:40,930 You know that on a full size movie screen 1179 00:49:40,970 --> 00:49:42,650 Even though it was a television show 1180 00:49:43,130 --> 00:49:45,210 I remember doug booth and i were talking one day 1181 00:49:45,210 --> 00:49:47,450 And so we started saying , you know 1182 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,900 Did they really like clean these up and fix them up 1183 00:49:49,900 --> 00:49:52,230 You know , this , this isn't that different than a movie 1184 00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:54,470 And then when we saw a real movie , which said , well yeah 1185 00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:57,310 It is a lot different than a real move than the real movie 1186 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,760 This scene it's it's it's funny with movies 1187 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,960 There are certain things that just get written and 1188 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,990 And never get changed in there forever here 1189 00:50:19,110 --> 00:50:21,330 And this scenes kind of kind of that 1190 00:50:21,330 --> 00:50:23,030 And the shark cons were never 1191 00:50:23,230 --> 00:50:23,970 Yeah 1192 00:50:23,970 --> 00:50:25,230 Never need jeopardy 1193 00:50:25,230 --> 00:50:27,110 Well , it's not seen . i really remember 1194 00:50:27,110 --> 00:50:30,790 Which means it was something that was probably written once 1195 00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:33,090 And i , you know , it may well have , uh 1196 00:50:33,090 --> 00:50:34,010 You know , a lot of company 1197 00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:35,370 The original stuff iron on friedman 1198 00:50:35,370 --> 00:50:36,670 I , i just don't remember 1199 00:50:36,670 --> 00:50:39,480 But you know , the i i don't look at this scene 1200 00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:40,760 And remember the fist fights 1201 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,280 A lot of scenes . you , you look at 1202 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,360 You remember all the fist fights and the arguments 1203 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,840 And , you know , ultimately ego 1204 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,100 You know , sixteen rounds over , you know , one line of dialogue 1205 00:50:50,330 --> 00:50:53,010 And then entire scenes just always sort of skate by 1206 00:50:53,010 --> 00:50:54,970 And nobody notices thinks about them 1207 00:50:55,620 --> 00:50:57,580 One else , you know , like , uh 1208 00:50:57,580 --> 00:51:01,780 You know , scrape and storyboard is quite a different , you know , storyboard 1209 00:51:01,780 --> 00:51:04,690 The , uh , first to the , uh , uh 1210 00:51:04,690 --> 00:51:07,510 You know , we have to show , uh , graphics 1211 00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:10,330 You know , what , what do we have to do like , uh 1212 00:51:10,330 --> 00:51:13,530 The staging and how , uh 1213 00:51:13,690 --> 00:51:18,450 Uh , dimension look , you know , is everything a change into from 1214 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:19,700 Uh 1215 00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:21,940 Uh , like , uh , the writing 1216 00:51:21,940 --> 00:51:24,280 You know , writing is , uh , um 1217 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,100 You know , writing 1218 00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:26,840 But , you know , we have to 1219 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,520 Uh , change to the visual concept 1220 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:35,180 Everything color and , uh , dimension and the , all the effects and , uh 1221 00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:37,880 How moved the , all the motions of the , each character 1222 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:38,340 You know 1223 00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:40,080 So it's quite a different from 1224 00:51:40,530 --> 00:51:41,370 Oh yeah 1225 00:51:41,370 --> 00:51:43,050 No sa screen plan 1226 00:51:43,050 --> 00:51:46,250 Incredibly incomplete medium is like difference between a blueprint , the building 1227 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:47,230 I mean , yeah 1228 00:51:47,230 --> 00:51:47,710 Yeah 1229 00:51:47,710 --> 00:51:49,410 You know , that's , uh 1230 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,120 It's totally different 1231 00:51:53,690 --> 00:51:55,310 Well , the quintet sounds okay 1232 00:51:55,310 --> 00:51:57,730 This , this gets into account of an interesting issue 1233 00:51:58,050 --> 00:51:59,690 And that is , uh 1234 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:00,520 Yeah 1235 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,800 We never really had a , an origin storage or origin mythology for the 1236 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,680 For the , uh , quinaissance 1237 00:52:06,970 --> 00:52:09,690 And yet they seem very ancient 1238 00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:11,670 They seem to proceed everything else 1239 00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:13,970 They seem to be all knowing 1240 00:52:14,250 --> 00:52:16,930 And the , uh , there was something that , yeah 1241 00:52:16,930 --> 00:52:20,490 We used much , you know , to much larger effect in the third 1242 00:52:20,490 --> 00:52:23,450 You know , the will . and we'll say the controversial third season 1243 00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:24,540 Um 1244 00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:26,360 And you know , they 1245 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,820 They ended up having a 1246 00:52:27,820 --> 00:52:34,330 You know , a , a major relationship and dog in the fight in the whole lot of bunauto about decepticon t war 1247 00:52:35,860 --> 00:52:37,420 And i think we knew that 1248 00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:38,340 I think a lot of 1249 00:52:38,340 --> 00:52:39,100 I mean , if you want to know 1250 00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:40,640 Where the outtakes from the movie went 1251 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,540 You just watched five faces of darkness 1252 00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:45,500 Which was the mini series that started the third season 1253 00:52:45,690 --> 00:52:47,570 And as i said , that is extremely 1254 00:52:47,570 --> 00:52:49,050 You know , a controversial 1255 00:52:49,050 --> 00:52:49,850 Some people love it 1256 00:52:49,850 --> 00:52:50,810 Some people hate it 1257 00:52:52,340 --> 00:52:56,840 Has the imperial majesty reached a verdict 1258 00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,280 I have one of the big things that happened 1259 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,060 This is a writer thing is you write so many different versions 1260 00:53:04,060 --> 00:53:05,950 Like last night when i was watching it 1261 00:53:05,950 --> 00:53:07,690 There were whole scenes i'd forgotten about 1262 00:53:07,690 --> 00:53:09,210 And then there were scenes i thought were in there 1263 00:53:09,210 --> 00:53:10,010 They weren't in there 1264 00:53:10,010 --> 00:53:15,230 And it gets very blurry between what was in your brain and what's actually in the movie 1265 00:53:25,940 --> 00:53:28,300 not the end i'd wish for that 1266 00:53:39,460 --> 00:53:41,180 Me swood no see nothing 1267 00:53:41,450 --> 00:53:45,970 me grim lock positive hot round and cup clothes 1268 00:53:46,130 --> 00:53:50,290 me slags say you full of viridium balloy 1269 00:53:52,740 --> 00:53:57,440 Many gm lock say you will of cum alarmy god 1270 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,960 I'm alone i friends time 1271 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,840 look behind who said that 1272 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,840 Friend find look behind you go wrong way 1273 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,710 You fool like it by instinct 1274 00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:18,230 A lot of times on a comedy writer 1275 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:21,670 And you know , the you dynambus was just such an opportunity for comedy 1276 00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:26,680 And this movie had so much potential for being just very sort of one note 1277 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,770 You know , griham itself important that there 1278 00:54:29,770 --> 00:54:31,190 You see these big goo falls 1279 00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:33,230 And there's no way to , you know 1280 00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:35,060 To avoid having fun with them 1281 00:54:35,060 --> 00:54:40,040 And , and we needed our unsophisticated sort of kid characters really safine friends 1282 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:40,580 Today 1283 00:54:40,890 --> 00:54:43,710 We leaves ice kind of a wiener of a character that , uh 1284 00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:44,450 You know , i never 1285 00:54:44,450 --> 00:54:46,050 I never really got into 1286 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:47,520 He was like one of those things else 1287 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,280 And you discovered as a product that's wheeling 1288 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:50,360 And you gotta get him into anything 1289 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,200 But yeah 1290 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,240 You can't love all your characters equally 1291 00:54:59,460 --> 00:55:03,060 Unicorn , why did you torture me 1292 00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:05,060 You have failed 1293 00:55:05,620 --> 00:55:07,100 No unicorn 1294 00:55:07,460 --> 00:55:12,380 Ultramadness is dead and the matrix destroyed 1295 00:55:12,530 --> 00:55:16,890 The matrix has not been destroyed 1296 00:55:18,050 --> 00:55:22,430 And ultra magnus lives on the planet of junk 1297 00:55:23,550 --> 00:55:24,390 Stock him 1298 00:55:25,230 --> 00:55:26,550 carry him apart 1299 00:55:27,850 --> 00:55:30,970 And destroy the matrix 1300 00:55:36,020 --> 00:55:38,720 Be sure the fittings are securely welded 1301 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,620 Absolutely , positively definitely . i wouldn't do it any other way 1302 00:55:40,620 --> 00:55:41,540 Any other way at all 1303 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,600 Wow this sexel suits fantastic 1304 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,880 I think i'm starting to get the hang of it 1305 00:55:48,940 --> 00:55:50,780 Unicorn the , uh , uh 1306 00:55:50,780 --> 00:55:55,740 Changing into uan actual human like , you know , uh 1307 00:55:56,330 --> 00:55:59,190 Uh , it , we , we , uh , we discuss about the 1308 00:55:59,190 --> 00:56:02,000 You know , when we do , uh , character , you know , uh 1309 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,350 It's gonna be really hard 1310 00:56:03,350 --> 00:56:04,390 Because they're all round 1311 00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:06,630 You know , around the shape of unicron 1312 00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:08,020 Uh 1313 00:56:08,020 --> 00:56:10,420 But anyway , uh , i , i didn't know 1314 00:56:11,020 --> 00:56:11,600 Uh 1315 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,620 Toy not come up to the , uh , a certain period of time 1316 00:56:16,210 --> 00:56:17,850 There goes the shuttle 1317 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:27,720 What do i do transform , transform 1318 00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:28,080 You can do it 1319 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:29,280 i know you you can do it 1320 00:56:38,860 --> 00:56:42,500 human germ transform 1321 00:56:50,740 --> 00:56:52,020 there they are 1322 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,000 make a break for cover i'll try to unleash the power of the matrix 1323 00:57:06,910 --> 00:57:08,390 I mean , ultramagnets 1324 00:57:08,390 --> 00:57:11,070 You know , he was never gonna be the next , uh 1325 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,660 The next optimist 1326 00:57:12,660 --> 00:57:14,380 I think my recollection 1327 00:57:14,380 --> 00:57:14,760 Yeah 1328 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:15,500 And i would not 1329 00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:16,760 I would not testify to this 1330 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,180 But i react recollections 1331 00:57:18,180 --> 00:57:19,400 There are a couple of times he was killed 1332 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,160 And we figured , you know , even even we soft and softened up 1333 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,680 But , you know , i don't remember whether 1334 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,880 Oh damn it's a very interesting thing 1335 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,640 And that is 1336 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,020 There is , there are a couple of curse words in this 1337 00:57:31,020 --> 00:57:36,080 In this movie that were put there specifically to get a pg rating 1338 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,460 Because we knew we , they didn't have pg thirteen 1339 00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:40,870 Oh , i guess he did in those days , it did , um 1340 00:57:40,870 --> 00:57:44,550 but to get a pg rating just so that it didn't seem like a little kids fm 1341 00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:52,360 There's a case where censorship and rating leads to more foul language and , uh , violence 1342 00:57:53,660 --> 00:57:56,260 What's very interesting though today is , you know 1343 00:57:56,260 --> 00:57:57,980 We look at this is being a long time ago 1344 00:57:57,980 --> 00:58:01,610 but today this violence level would probably get you much harsher rating 1345 00:58:01,610 --> 00:58:03,710 and people would be much more upset about it 1346 00:58:03,710 --> 00:58:05,310 Than they were back in the mid eighties 1347 00:58:05,310 --> 00:58:08,470 Before his imperial magistry delivers a verdict 1348 00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:10,910 Would you like to dig for your lives 1349 00:58:11,140 --> 00:58:13,080 It sometimes helps 1350 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,940 But not often 1351 00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:18,070 I can't transform 1352 00:58:18,570 --> 00:58:23,170 Keep dying violence or will be held in contempt from this court 1353 00:58:23,170 --> 00:58:26,070 I have nothing but contempt for this court 1354 00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:28,540 Guilty or innocent 1355 00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:30,580 innocent 1356 00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:40,300 They've got more shark docs than we have photon charges 1357 00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:41,900 Then let's hold the demolition 1358 00:58:41,900 --> 00:58:42,660 davi 1359 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,900 when i see what i want 1360 00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:58,040 i'm gonna take it 1361 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,480 If it's against the all you can set out breaking 1362 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,680 here are some real eighties metal 1363 00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:11,220 With eighties metal on the screen too 1364 00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:12,980 b 1365 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,200 best to keep me alive 1366 00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,520 You're interesting thing about the show is , yeah there , yeah 1367 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:27,880 We we've , we've found a line 1368 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,680 And this is this is pure nelson here 1369 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,200 I mean this may been one line in the script 1370 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,440 but we they found a lot of ways to have these guys be cars and b robots 1371 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,320 And have it kind of makes sense 1372 00:59:39,820 --> 00:59:41,300 And and just feel right 1373 00:59:41,300 --> 00:59:46,800 And he realized there's a real difference between emotional film logic and real world logic 1374 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,700 And , and 1375 00:59:49,180 --> 00:59:51,860 And if if you establish a world in a certain way 1376 00:59:51,860 --> 00:59:53,620 It's amazing how much you can get away with 1377 00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,260 You know , now what i'm looking at 1378 01:00:01,580 --> 01:00:03,940 You know , uh , probably timing 1379 01:00:03,940 --> 01:00:06,240 We should cut more some place 1380 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,430 But , you know , but too , too late 1381 01:00:08,430 --> 01:00:12,470 But , uh , this is a chunk of with the work 1382 01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:12,950 And 1383 01:00:13,390 --> 01:00:15,790 Uh , you know , it's so many 1384 01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:19,740 So many , uh , you know , hours we've been through 1385 01:00:19,740 --> 01:00:20,140 Yeah 1386 01:00:20,140 --> 01:00:23,740 Well , it's a great looking scene though when the shark tekaz 1387 01:00:23,740 --> 01:00:25,060 I think came out really well 1388 01:00:25,060 --> 01:00:28,060 And they pushed the cartoony edge of the french edge 1389 01:00:29,140 --> 01:00:30,580 You know , there you look at them 1390 01:00:30,580 --> 01:00:33,020 They're sort of the most stylized and cartoony 1391 01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:33,940 But that's also great 1392 01:00:33,940 --> 01:00:35,780 You want to franchise to have a range 1393 01:00:37,410 --> 01:00:38,450 You know , it can't be all 1394 01:00:38,450 --> 01:00:40,410 You know , one note slingshot 1395 01:00:40,890 --> 01:00:43,930 I mean , i know that was ever a slingshot years before since 1396 01:00:43,930 --> 01:00:45,810 And transformers we got one in there 1397 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:57,920 Ha ha i never thought i'd be so happy to see those big boos me grim lock 1398 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,800 no bozo me king 1399 01:01:02,310 --> 01:01:05,310 Yeah , i mean it , it seems like there's a lot of demand for the movie 1400 01:01:05,310 --> 01:01:06,650 And it's certainly , you know , when i 1401 01:01:06,650 --> 01:01:08,560 But i do a lot of work in video games now 1402 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,880 And everybody knows about the movie and people are always asking questions 1403 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,500 We really is a sort of cultural icon to a whole generation of kids 1404 01:01:17,110 --> 01:01:18,590 And , and at the time 1405 01:01:18,590 --> 01:01:21,310 You know , it was not some huge move hit movie 1406 01:01:21,310 --> 01:01:24,150 And , uh , it didn't blow the front off the box office 1407 01:01:24,150 --> 01:01:29,310 But then again , you didn't have quite the same animated family market then that you do now 1408 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,060 But , uh 1409 01:01:31,060 --> 01:01:32,760 But it really , really hung in there 1410 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:38,100 And has been sort of , uh , newly rediscovered or not even newly 1411 01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:40,240 But as the , the generation of these kids grew up 1412 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,380 Who cares as long as it flies 1413 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,680 Ultramadness 1414 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:56,160 Without the matrix , there is no hope 1415 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,640 No hope , no hope , no hope at all 1416 01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,640 Incredible turning point in the movie when 1417 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,120 Uh , ultra magnus eyes 1418 01:02:03,730 --> 01:02:06,050 First prime , then ultra magnus 1419 01:02:06,050 --> 01:02:08,370 I love being able to say that in the movie too 1420 01:02:08,810 --> 01:02:10,730 First prime , now ultra magnus 1421 01:02:10,730 --> 01:02:11,770 What do we do 1422 01:02:12,310 --> 01:02:15,490 Such a , such a feudal moment for her 1423 01:02:15,490 --> 01:02:19,290 Such a cheap realizes the gravity 1424 01:02:19,410 --> 01:02:21,930 Uh , in the , in that moment 1425 01:02:22,370 --> 01:02:25,110 And of course then she blows up junkie 1426 01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:27,990 And her true , that true hero side comes out 1427 01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:29,550 Aha , that's great 1428 01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:33,450 It's time to let your baby is so to be come 1429 01:02:33,450 --> 01:02:35,770 If it's time to let my boss fight 1430 01:02:35,770 --> 01:02:41,340 You better put on your recoone that did you better come to chill before they hatch 1431 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,860 It's not hard to knock them down 1432 01:02:49,860 --> 01:02:52,600 it's getting them to stay down that's the trick 1433 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,400 They're indestructible 1434 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:56,600 And yeah 1435 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,560 No , i mean , this was also 1436 01:02:58,620 --> 01:02:59,880 You know , our source on this 1437 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,220 This was also very much the error road warrior 1438 01:03:02,220 --> 01:03:04,500 We just took a one step further decided 1439 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:06,620 Hell let's have a whole planet made out of trash 1440 01:03:06,620 --> 01:03:11,310 And you know , that the verbal of quivalent is trash is tv commercials 1441 01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:13,230 This of course coming from an ad agency 1442 01:03:13,430 --> 01:03:15,450 So , you know , we use tv jingles 1443 01:03:15,450 --> 01:03:17,550 This kind of , you know , verbal garbage 1444 01:03:17,950 --> 01:03:19,270 And , uh 1445 01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:22,270 It all sort of kind of adds up and it works out . okay 1446 01:03:22,270 --> 01:03:24,510 As i said before , this one of those things that 1447 01:03:25,180 --> 01:03:25,620 Yeah 1448 01:03:25,620 --> 01:03:28,340 You'd like to go back and make it look work a little bit better 1449 01:03:30,190 --> 01:03:32,090 You know , not the the visuals are great 1450 01:03:32,090 --> 01:03:34,510 I mean yeah , the the the directing is great 1451 01:03:34,510 --> 01:03:37,240 I'm , i'm more specifically talking about the writing because they're 1452 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,630 You know , you have people like eric idle working on your thing 1453 01:03:39,630 --> 01:03:41,450 you know , you want to make sure you really got it right 1454 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:44,740 Well 1455 01:03:44,740 --> 01:03:46,980 You know , you put the all kind of things 1456 01:03:46,980 --> 01:03:48,760 You know , you whatever you thinking there 1457 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,540 You just put it so that's that's what we have to do it , you know 1458 01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:51,960 Yeah 1459 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,240 Uh 1460 01:03:54,300 --> 01:04:00,040 Look at this is , you know , this one's spinning in , you know , standing on the ground 1461 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:00,280 Yeah 1462 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,260 This is really an innovative spaceship 1463 01:04:02,260 --> 01:04:02,860 Yeah 1464 01:04:02,860 --> 01:04:05,440 And the thing , the thing that's easy not to notice 1465 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,160 Looking at all this bizarreness 1466 01:04:07,290 --> 01:04:08,930 But it's the amount of ingenuity 1467 01:04:08,930 --> 01:04:09,430 You know , i mean 1468 01:04:09,430 --> 01:04:11,130 You know , you know , nelson just decided , hey 1469 01:04:11,130 --> 01:04:14,950 I want to have a spaceship in here that isn't like a flying saucer 1470 01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:17,070 And it doesn't look , you know , we've already seen this shuttle 1471 01:04:17,070 --> 01:04:20,350 It's gotta be let's have a big giant corkscrew 1472 01:04:20,350 --> 01:04:23,640 Come in yonthat's that's not something you see every day 1473 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,100 Neither are they in case you haven't noticed 1474 01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:28,340 What was that universal greeting again 1475 01:04:28,340 --> 01:04:29,000 Never mind 1476 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,770 I remember bo weep grown up weep ninnbg 1477 01:04:34,190 --> 01:04:34,930 Oh yeah 1478 01:04:34,930 --> 01:04:35,370 Yeah 1479 01:04:35,370 --> 01:04:38,250 We definitely muring the universal gredient very is a gagged 1480 01:04:38,250 --> 01:04:39,110 We , uh 1481 01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:41,180 You know , was always in it 1482 01:04:41,180 --> 01:04:41,420 Yeah 1483 01:04:41,420 --> 01:04:43,760 That gag was never threatened with being cut out 1484 01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:47,260 Every like the universal greeting the fever 1485 01:04:47,260 --> 01:04:48,620 A future that you 1486 01:04:48,620 --> 01:04:49,980 So what you gonna do 1487 01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:52,700 Dit be stubbly be stupid 1488 01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:53,940 What did i say 1489 01:04:53,940 --> 01:04:56,720 D so tell me what i say 1490 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,260 Do you do this ? it's all right 1491 01:04:59,950 --> 01:05:04,820 Look at this super on the right to come on join the crowd 1492 01:05:04,820 --> 01:05:06,800 Gonna be the man shit up 1493 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,520 Wow better be good 1494 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,840 Look me glock not kiss me glock king 1495 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,280 Have a nice day and please close 1496 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,610 Come before striking friends , ref sor lucy 1497 01:05:21,610 --> 01:05:25,770 So say a jian wher'd you learn to talk like that 1498 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,560 This song , by the way , is , is one of the songs 1499 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,320 It really works best in the show 1500 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,440 Uh , i mean , it really fits well with the junk gans , and in my opin 1501 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,880 Well actually , i think the music , you know 1502 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,000 I know there is controversial on another 1503 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,640 There are a lot of people that didn't like the music 1504 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:45,630 But thanks eighties arena rock is probably about perfect for transform 1505 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,960 i'll be modering up to do to do 1506 01:05:59,020 --> 01:06:03,420 Rock is the one is the life in transformer 1507 01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:06,820 Logic had prime died on , uh 1508 01:06:07,220 --> 01:06:09,100 You know , died on junkion planet 1509 01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:10,440 Maybe they couldn't put it back together 1510 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,980 But you know , unfortunately all of the , uh , the , uh 1511 01:06:14,730 --> 01:06:16,510 Spark of life had left him 1512 01:06:16,510 --> 01:06:19,070 And the the matrix had been pulled out of his chest 1513 01:06:19,070 --> 01:06:23,460 so and also too ultramagnus had not been cancelled from the product line 1514 01:06:23,460 --> 01:06:28,000 And prime had and life's heart now destroy k 1515 01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:31,820 Eliminate even the toughest stain 1516 01:06:31,820 --> 01:06:32,670 No fuss 1517 01:06:32,670 --> 01:06:36,390 No muhurry harry harry style mastin rush right on down 1518 01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:37,780 And test drive rate is one 1519 01:06:37,780 --> 01:06:41,240 We needed some kind of a of a que to explain 1520 01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,450 I mean , he shows the tv and says that we just need to set that up 1521 01:06:45,450 --> 01:06:47,550 We we need to clue that up a little bit better 1522 01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:50,530 You know , cue it up a little bit better than we did in the well 1523 01:06:50,740 --> 01:06:51,140 Yeah 1524 01:06:51,140 --> 01:06:53,860 Here's a corkscrew ship with the , uh 1525 01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:55,700 The , uh 1526 01:06:57,010 --> 01:06:58,430 Certain picky fans 1527 01:06:58,430 --> 01:07:02,410 You know , complain about the fact that the stuff wasn't moving around the background 1528 01:07:03,090 --> 01:07:03,410 Yeah 1529 01:07:03,410 --> 01:07:05,090 I could say , huh for me too 1530 01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:09,050 Uh , h 1531 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,520 And that would be just like an official that's the international language for 1532 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,360 You know , go away , don't bother me , uh 1533 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:14,680 Okay 1534 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,130 So unit crown 1535 01:07:17,410 --> 01:07:20,330 All right here's unit crime answer me 1536 01:07:20,690 --> 01:07:21,730 See the 1537 01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:22,870 Yeah 1538 01:07:22,990 --> 01:07:25,550 I don't care whether you see , you know 1539 01:07:25,790 --> 01:07:28,620 Megatron or , uh , galva tron 1540 01:07:28,620 --> 01:07:33,170 You know , he's still the the same pompous but and routinely 1541 01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:35,210 You know , humiliated by everybody around him 1542 01:07:35,210 --> 01:07:37,070 But he remains leader 1543 01:07:37,070 --> 01:07:41,260 The decepted consin that was actually kind of a fun thing that we worked on as we wanted 1544 01:07:41,260 --> 01:07:44,090 You know , a certain amount of charm and humor in these characters 1545 01:07:44,090 --> 01:07:46,650 You know , even though they're supposed to be the alter bad guy 1546 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,380 Yeah , the ambient background music guy thinks really good 1547 01:08:10,380 --> 01:08:12,800 I actually bought this soundtrack 1548 01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:13,950 Um 1549 01:08:13,950 --> 01:08:16,890 And , uh , you know , actually listen to at a certain kinds 1550 01:08:16,890 --> 01:08:20,850 I , you listen to a lot of film scores and stuff like that when i'm writing and , and , uh 1551 01:08:20,990 --> 01:08:21,670 So , uh 1552 01:08:21,670 --> 01:08:23,510 I'll be listening to some of the ambient stuff in this 1553 01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:26,170 And be thinking it that's really good and then realize , oh , it's transforming 1554 01:08:26,170 --> 01:08:26,590 Yeah 1555 01:08:26,590 --> 01:08:27,430 Well watch this 1556 01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:31,939 You know , this is the , uh , the transforming into u 1557 01:08:32,130 --> 01:08:36,810 You know , gilbert tron becoming the human like , you know , i mean 1558 01:08:41,180 --> 01:08:45,260 You shall witness it's disneme 1559 01:08:46,420 --> 01:08:49,500 I mean , no , we noticed his mouth isn't moving as he talks 1560 01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:51,779 But kind of establish his voice comes out of that 1561 01:08:51,779 --> 01:08:53,779 You know , sort of weird hole in his body 1562 01:08:54,510 --> 01:08:56,510 You get to , you get into those kind of issues 1563 01:08:56,510 --> 01:08:58,109 And never know how to answer him 1564 01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:16,740 Yeah , unicron , that was just , uh 1565 01:09:16,740 --> 01:09:20,140 He was a hugely controversial when , when you say this is fair else 1566 01:09:20,140 --> 01:09:23,100 And he was a hugely controversial edition to the film and 1567 01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:27,870 And controversy has a funny having a manifesting itself and , uh 1568 01:09:28,109 --> 01:09:30,990 In the form of inconsistency in the final product 1569 01:09:31,930 --> 01:09:32,330 Yeah 1570 01:09:32,330 --> 01:09:32,870 You can tell 1571 01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:33,130 Yeah 1572 01:09:33,130 --> 01:09:34,010 I mean , you know , it 1573 01:09:34,010 --> 01:09:37,450 It would be , you could teach a whole ph d class in 1574 01:09:37,580 --> 01:09:43,660 You know , analyzing the development process and the production process by looking at the final product 1575 01:09:43,660 --> 01:09:47,180 And that can watch movies and see what the arguments were in the room and , uh 1576 01:09:47,180 --> 01:09:51,069 What happened and , and usually at least fingerprints like a crown 1577 01:09:51,069 --> 01:09:53,330 Indifferent that's what we're gonna find out 1578 01:10:01,580 --> 01:10:03,220 This far , right 1579 01:10:03,700 --> 01:10:05,320 For up to five years 1580 01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:07,780 Well , you know , when i said the , uh , uh 1581 01:10:07,780 --> 01:10:10,140 We search around the , uh , the sequence 1582 01:10:10,140 --> 01:10:12,190 You know , sometimes , u , uh 1583 01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:15,770 This is not to come up as what at the beginning , you know , right 1584 01:10:15,770 --> 01:10:16,370 It will change 1585 01:10:16,370 --> 01:10:16,850 Yeah 1586 01:10:17,050 --> 01:10:17,930 Exactly 1587 01:10:17,930 --> 01:10:19,370 You know , i know you get some notes 1588 01:10:19,370 --> 01:10:22,020 You know , i don't like the way unicorn looks in this scene 1589 01:10:22,020 --> 01:10:23,190 And it's like you don't want to tell them 1590 01:10:23,190 --> 01:10:25,030 Well that's what we've modeled them for a raillar seam 1591 01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:26,990 So unicorn just looks different than that , sc 1592 01:10:27,670 --> 01:10:29,790 You know , and there becomes just this reality of 1593 01:10:29,790 --> 01:10:30,990 You know , the jobs getting to get done 1594 01:10:30,990 --> 01:10:33,150 And there are only so many , uh , retakes 1595 01:10:33,150 --> 01:10:35,650 You get only so many weeks of fixes 1596 01:10:35,650 --> 01:10:39,090 You get that's right sometimes that we never get to fix 1597 01:10:39,450 --> 01:10:41,490 but i hope they didn't get him 1598 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,680 You are the future in your hand 1599 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:52,040 Yeah 1600 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:52,440 I mean , yeah 1601 01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:54,720 I think the , in the , in the inconsistency 1602 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:55,880 Just , you know , come from the fact 1603 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,640 We live in an imperfect universe and yeah 1604 01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,240 And with world enough and time 1605 01:10:59,980 --> 01:11:02,020 You would , uh , you'd probably be able to fix them 1606 01:11:02,020 --> 01:11:05,740 The interesting thing is , is that i tend to discover about the time 1607 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,420 And i think you , you , you could argue this with a lot of , you know , digital things 1608 01:11:09,420 --> 01:11:12,080 Not really , not really cg movies because they're a different animal 1609 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,330 But there were a lot of things where that 1610 01:11:15,690 --> 01:11:18,710 You know , the minute you have the time and you have the luxury 1611 01:11:18,710 --> 01:11:21,480 You get a , you don't get inconsistencies and 1612 01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:23,880 And flaws be get a different set of problems 1613 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,240 You get over think and people getting sick of the material 1614 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:31,620 There's a lot to be said for just doing something pretty fast and 1615 01:11:31,620 --> 01:11:35,220 And allowing it to maintain the initial enthusiasm in hea 1616 01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:40,140 Destroying the time 1617 01:11:40,140 --> 01:11:45,580 Now you should be obliterated , of course 1618 01:11:45,580 --> 01:11:46,980 So here's a great scene 1619 01:11:46,980 --> 01:11:47,200 Okay 1620 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,700 Galvatron is such a treacherous swine 1621 01:11:49,710 --> 01:11:53,640 or an unicorn is so evil that for a minute and a half 1622 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,640 Galvatrounds actually switching over to the side of the autobots 1623 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:57,600 They finally sound 1624 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,040 And i love that theme of you have two enemies 1625 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,880 But they finally found a third thing 1626 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,960 That's so bad that they're willing to join forces 1627 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,080 Of course 1628 01:12:06,690 --> 01:12:07,290 Yeah 1629 01:12:07,290 --> 01:12:09,790 You know , and galvatron lacks the , uh 1630 01:12:09,790 --> 01:12:12,790 You know , the moral fortitude to , you know , stick by his guns 1631 01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:15,050 but yeah , that's why is it accepton 1632 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:21,760 Yeah 1633 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:23,680 Actually , uh , you know , this is final 1634 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,180 He's , he's gonna lose song soon 1635 01:12:26,180 --> 01:12:29,560 You know , so it's concentrating for , uh 1636 01:12:29,970 --> 01:12:34,530 You know , unicron attacking from , uh , auto buds 1637 01:12:36,300 --> 01:12:37,940 Well , it's kind of nice as , yeah 1638 01:12:37,940 --> 01:12:40,040 That all the still hoidea is scratching your way 1639 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,500 And metal stuff was set up really early on with the insect or ons 1640 01:12:43,500 --> 01:12:45,420 Where when they're invading out about base 1641 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,370 That's really important is even as inconsistent 1642 01:12:48,370 --> 01:12:51,050 As we are about the powers and the abilities of certain 1643 01:12:51,050 --> 01:12:53,250 Uh , creatures are that by the way 1644 01:12:53,250 --> 01:12:56,010 It's my favorite look for unickunickon right there 1645 01:12:56,900 --> 01:12:57,700 Wow 1646 01:12:58,020 --> 01:13:00,940 This is such a troublesome moment for our sea 1647 01:13:01,190 --> 01:13:03,010 When she separated from daniel 1648 01:13:03,010 --> 01:13:06,350 It's a exciting pinnacle moment in the movie 1649 01:13:06,350 --> 01:13:09,750 But still you don't know what's gonna happen your hardest behind 1650 01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:11,210 Will daniel be saved 1651 01:13:11,290 --> 01:13:13,370 Will the autobots be washed away 1652 01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:22,960 Another water , water there are we , uh , it's just like a human body 1653 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,590 You know , we have lots of water inside of the , uh 1654 01:13:26,590 --> 01:13:30,380 Uh , physic , you know , so this is , uh , uh 1655 01:13:30,380 --> 01:13:32,740 Express , express like that , you know 1656 01:13:32,740 --> 01:13:33,280 Yeah 1657 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:34,000 Yeah 1658 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,960 The idea is to set up the unicron is some oversized 1659 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,680 Horrible manifestation of the worst aspects of , of 1660 01:13:42,130 --> 01:13:44,890 You know , meat and machinery and india 1661 01:13:44,890 --> 01:13:46,210 What's he powered by now 1662 01:13:46,210 --> 01:13:46,370 Yeah 1663 01:13:46,370 --> 01:13:48,970 I mean , talk about matrix references , particularly to this 1664 01:13:49,450 --> 01:13:50,290 Um 1665 01:13:50,670 --> 01:13:51,030 Yeah 1666 01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:54,550 I mean , what's he powered by is powered by the , you know , spent 1667 01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:56,230 This is an asset tank 1668 01:13:56,230 --> 01:13:57,490 You know , this is all 1669 01:13:57,490 --> 01:13:59,310 Whatever they are drop into , uh 1670 01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:00,790 Just melting down , you know 1671 01:14:00,790 --> 01:14:01,190 Yeah 1672 01:14:01,190 --> 01:14:02,750 And he sees on the energy out of it 1673 01:14:02,750 --> 01:14:02,910 Right 1674 01:14:02,910 --> 01:14:06,390 Isn't that he's , he's making energy or whatever he's doing with that 1675 01:14:07,980 --> 01:14:08,420 Okay 1676 01:14:08,420 --> 01:14:08,780 Yeah 1677 01:14:08,780 --> 01:14:10,460 There's poor , poor spike 1678 01:14:10,460 --> 01:14:12,620 Who we haven't seen for a while about the 1679 01:14:12,620 --> 01:14:14,070 About to get the quick cook 1680 01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:16,030 If , you know , his son's gotta figured it out 1681 01:14:16,030 --> 01:14:17,270 And you set up the sole problem 1682 01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:20,030 Whether , whether daniel can power the suit and get it to do 1683 01:14:20,030 --> 01:14:21,630 What he wants it to do or not 1684 01:14:21,890 --> 01:14:22,810 Oh good 1685 01:14:22,810 --> 01:14:24,930 He , he closes the seat , you know 1686 01:14:24,930 --> 01:14:25,250 Yeah 1687 01:14:25,250 --> 01:14:26,050 There we go 1688 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,080 Thank you 1689 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,160 and sure enough you have that moment of doubt 1690 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,320 Where he like brought amus before him 1691 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,040 Thinks he failed to save his his father figure 1692 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,560 But this case really is his father 1693 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:46,640 time stop today galvatron 1694 01:14:49,020 --> 01:14:49,840 Okay . here's 1695 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,180 Here's the rematch 1696 01:14:51,820 --> 01:14:54,740 here urodimus prime in galvatron 1697 01:15:00,260 --> 01:15:03,060 Now originally , you know , i remember there versions of scene 1698 01:15:03,060 --> 01:15:05,340 Where galvine and tried his treachery and 1699 01:15:05,340 --> 01:15:08,500 And hot ride turned it against him and destroyed it was 1700 01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:08,890 Yeah 1701 01:15:08,890 --> 01:15:10,250 I was kind of like dirty harry 1702 01:15:10,250 --> 01:15:12,170 You know , i know what you're thinking fun 1703 01:15:12,610 --> 01:15:14,770 But , uh , yeah , i didn't quite end up 1704 01:15:14,770 --> 01:15:19,590 As with the hot rod being is quite as vicious as uhrodimus 1705 01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:21,390 Of this , uh , being as vicious 1706 01:15:21,390 --> 01:15:22,430 I want him to be 1707 01:15:25,260 --> 01:15:28,540 i will crush you with my bare han 1708 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,640 die autobot 1709 01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:39,260 Summary is how things gonna die 1710 01:15:39,260 --> 01:15:43,740 We also don't worry about whether robot physiology allows for your windpipe to be stopped 1711 01:15:43,740 --> 01:15:44,300 you know 1712 01:15:46,940 --> 01:15:50,090 So much of it about is is just about what you know 1713 01:15:50,090 --> 01:15:53,240 Looks logical and feels logical to the eye 1714 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:54,680 Rather than what would be logical 1715 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,720 And the internal logic of the property 1716 01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:01,810 You it's a pity you autobots die so easily 1717 01:16:02,010 --> 01:16:05,810 or i might have a sense of satisfaction now 1718 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,780 You got the touch , you know , uh 1719 01:16:11,780 --> 01:16:15,280 Umetric metric power opens 1720 01:16:15,380 --> 01:16:17,480 You know , uh , once open 1721 01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:19,980 Then maybe , uh , uh , it's gonna be 1722 01:16:20,300 --> 01:16:22,300 Uh , take a three seconds 1723 01:16:22,850 --> 01:16:24,290 You know , it's very important 1724 01:16:24,290 --> 01:16:26,170 You know why , why we have to , uh 1725 01:16:26,170 --> 01:16:27,270 Just to show the , uh 1726 01:16:27,270 --> 01:16:28,970 Three seconds and claws 1727 01:16:29,370 --> 01:16:35,690 So we have , this is tremendous dea power energy opens 1728 01:16:35,690 --> 01:16:39,010 We're gonna repeat . and we , we have to show this 1729 01:16:39,010 --> 01:16:40,450 Because the important , you know 1730 01:16:40,450 --> 01:16:42,330 That's why we have , uh 1731 01:16:42,330 --> 01:16:46,890 So many different angle and repeat open same opening 1732 01:16:46,890 --> 01:16:48,490 But we just repeat 1733 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,880 Uh , especially animation , uh 1734 01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,600 If you do a slow motion 1735 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,240 It's not gonna be shown 1736 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,060 Or this mistake of the animation 1737 01:16:57,060 --> 01:17:00,420 Or , you know , the like a slow motion 1738 01:17:00,420 --> 01:17:01,300 You know , it 1739 01:17:01,300 --> 01:17:03,980 It doesn't have their definition 1740 01:17:03,980 --> 01:17:04,380 You know 1741 01:17:04,380 --> 01:17:08,150 So , uh , we just obviously we just show the , uh 1742 01:17:08,190 --> 01:17:11,510 You know , it's just the three , four times a different angle 1743 01:17:11,740 --> 01:17:12,220 Yeah 1744 01:17:12,220 --> 01:17:14,060 Also too this , this was the eighties 1745 01:17:14,060 --> 01:17:15,900 You know , and the , and remember the action films 1746 01:17:15,900 --> 01:17:17,700 The eighties , you showed the same explosion 1747 01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:21,390 You know , in slow motion nineteen times over and over again 1748 01:17:21,390 --> 01:17:23,130 Because that's what you do 1749 01:17:23,130 --> 01:17:26,130 Then it's like people look at , at this era and say 1750 01:17:26,150 --> 01:17:29,230 Hey , look at those really garishly used digital effects 1751 01:17:29,230 --> 01:17:29,630 Well 1752 01:17:29,630 --> 01:17:31,190 You know , that was the toy . we had that 1753 01:17:31,190 --> 01:17:33,270 And so that's what , what we played with 1754 01:17:42,620 --> 01:17:47,220 Never fight daniel springer . what's going on 1755 01:17:47,220 --> 01:17:48,580 No time to answer that 1756 01:17:48,580 --> 01:17:49,460 Now let's get up 1757 01:17:49,460 --> 01:17:51,300 And actually the , uh 1758 01:17:51,300 --> 01:17:53,340 This is uui kan , uh 1759 01:17:53,340 --> 01:17:54,600 You know , blessed ing off 1760 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,860 Continue , you know , continue bing off 1761 01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,980 Becoming he's ahead like , uh 1762 01:18:01,020 --> 01:18:05,640 You know , orbit to turning , turning the cybertrand . no 1763 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,110 So magnificent here . flint . great story 1764 01:18:09,110 --> 01:18:11,110 Just really strong story 1765 01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:13,130 How the autobots are transforming here 1766 01:18:13,130 --> 01:18:16,310 Ythe whole movie in some ways is about , you know , their 1767 01:18:17,010 --> 01:18:19,850 This is the dark side of cyber tron that shows up 1768 01:18:19,850 --> 01:18:20,970 I mean a weird way 1769 01:18:20,970 --> 01:18:23,610 You know , jay and i got our what we thought is 1770 01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:26,250 Are just our brilliant idea of what the script should be 1771 01:18:26,250 --> 01:18:28,490 It sort of came in here in the sense that , you know , yeah 1772 01:18:28,490 --> 01:18:30,010 This was very a bunch about 1773 01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:32,740 You know , some kind of , uh 1774 01:18:33,420 --> 01:18:33,900 Yeah 1775 01:18:33,900 --> 01:18:35,740 Destruction the dark side it's over tron 1776 01:18:35,740 --> 01:18:37,060 Look at that nelson 1777 01:18:37,060 --> 01:18:37,980 I love the design 1778 01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:41,560 How you've got them coming out of , uh , unicorn eye 1779 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,380 Ha ha after they transform 1780 01:18:43,380 --> 01:18:47,450 Just super such a poignant ending to the movie 1781 01:18:49,230 --> 01:18:49,670 Yeah 1782 01:18:49,670 --> 01:18:51,310 That his head getting cut off 1783 01:18:51,310 --> 01:18:51,590 Yeah 1784 01:18:51,590 --> 01:18:53,030 That was something i really like 1785 01:18:53,030 --> 01:18:56,230 Because i wanted to do a lot of stuff with his head later on 1786 01:18:56,230 --> 01:18:58,020 I was just felt that that 1787 01:18:58,060 --> 01:19:00,660 Uh , unick's head should reappear 1788 01:19:00,660 --> 01:19:03,600 And other parts of his body should turn up here and there 1789 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,910 We march forward to a new age 1790 01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:07,260 Age of peace and happy 1791 01:19:07,260 --> 01:19:09,230 I and , and what i don't know what 1792 01:19:09,230 --> 01:19:11,390 What i know is i in my mind 1793 01:19:11,390 --> 01:19:11,730 Okay 1794 01:19:11,730 --> 01:19:13,330 This doesn't exist in the real universe 1795 01:19:13,330 --> 01:19:14,370 But in my mind 1796 01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:15,820 Um 1797 01:19:15,900 --> 01:19:18,800 This in five faces , the darkness are very related 1798 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,340 Related things and in fact other things 1799 01:19:21,340 --> 01:19:22,740 In the third season , though 1800 01:19:22,780 --> 01:19:26,700 I sort of morphed off of transforms about halfway through the third season 1801 01:19:26,700 --> 01:19:28,060 You know , not that far into it 1802 01:19:28,060 --> 01:19:31,180 And , you know , start doing visionaries and humanoids and stuff 1803 01:19:38,100 --> 01:19:41,900 This this is us go round round round the door as a hoe 1804 01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:42,140 Yeah 1805 01:19:42,140 --> 01:19:42,900 I mean , yeah 1806 01:19:42,900 --> 01:19:43,780 It was very important to me 1807 01:19:43,780 --> 01:19:45,100 That stuff show up here 1808 01:19:45,100 --> 01:19:45,430 All right 1809 01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:46,070 Is there anybody here 1810 01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:47,630 We hadn't talked about here 1811 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,120 Oh , michael bell did a lot of voice for both joe and transformers 1812 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,160 And i saw i'm just recently he's doing great 1813 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:54,380 Still do all his voices 1814 01:19:54,380 --> 01:19:57,090 they're sue arthur berg hart 1815 01:19:58,250 --> 01:19:59,330 And peter callen 1816 01:19:59,330 --> 01:20:00,170 We talked about him 1817 01:20:00,170 --> 01:20:01,010 He did a great job 1818 01:20:01,010 --> 01:20:03,290 Skatman cler told the great , uh 1819 01:20:03,390 --> 01:20:05,630 Stanley cooper at clint eastwood story 1820 01:20:06,190 --> 01:20:07,930 Chris lota , uh 1821 01:20:07,930 --> 01:20:08,910 He was a great guy 1822 01:20:08,910 --> 01:20:10,910 He died never quite figured out how 1823 01:20:11,750 --> 01:20:13,590 Um , yeah 1824 01:20:13,590 --> 01:20:14,670 Neil neil ross 1825 01:20:14,670 --> 01:20:18,500 He did a lot of th projects for the frank walker 1826 01:20:18,500 --> 01:20:19,320 Frank walker 1827 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,340 I mean that guy , that guy was just raw genius 1828 01:20:21,340 --> 01:20:22,640 He was , you know 1829 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,480 Two standard deviation from the norm 1830 01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:25,640 I mean he was great 1831 01:20:25,850 --> 01:20:27,330 He could do anything 1832 01:20:28,010 --> 01:20:30,850 I'm sort of sorry to see the see the movie 1833 01:20:30,850 --> 01:20:32,010 And here it's been a nice 1834 01:20:32,010 --> 01:20:34,130 I mean right now in my head , i'm 1835 01:20:34,250 --> 01:20:36,170 I'm not sure i'm back in eighty five 1836 01:20:36,260 --> 01:20:38,980 But you know , i'm maybe i'm somewhere in like the mid ninety 1837 01:20:38,980 --> 01:20:40,820 Somewhere between then and now right now 1838 01:20:41,140 --> 01:20:44,460 Amazing how much this brings back it's that's funny thing about projects 1839 01:20:44,460 --> 01:20:47,600 That projects can date a whole era your life 1840 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:48,580 And now look at this 1841 01:20:48,580 --> 01:20:51,510 And you know it's part of it's about the movie and part of it 1842 01:20:51,510 --> 01:20:53,350 It's about the you know , this really sweet period 1843 01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:54,550 When i was living in new york 1844 01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:57,530 And having a grand old time in my twenties 1845 01:20:57,530 --> 01:21:01,980 Living in new york in a hotel and rewriting a movie error 1846 01:21:01,980 --> 01:21:03,780 You know , being in the , the office in westwood 1847 01:21:03,780 --> 01:21:06,020 And all that , that's that's funny how that works 1848 01:21:08,180 --> 01:21:12,140 yeah ， it's completely different than way a fan sees that it's it's different 1849 01:21:21,550 --> 01:21:22,830 Pannier with band rick there 1850 01:21:22,830 --> 01:21:24,830 And he was in every body to love his guitar work 1851 01:21:24,830 --> 01:21:25,710 And , uh 1852 01:21:26,630 --> 01:21:27,870 how's the union 1853 01:21:29,100 --> 01:21:30,780 Jim gractiana 1854 01:21:30,780 --> 01:21:33,320 Carol whiteman was absolutely , she was fabulous 1855 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,060 Carol whitman , you know 1856 01:21:35,570 --> 01:21:38,850 Was , was just just wrangled this wonderfully 1857 01:21:38,850 --> 01:21:41,250 You know , the young shin the , uh , the bomb 1858 01:21:41,250 --> 01:21:41,650 Yeah 1859 01:21:41,650 --> 01:21:42,990 You know , this is my wife 1860 01:21:42,990 --> 01:21:44,120 Oh , that's correct 1861 01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,780 Flora , flora dairy that he is a design 1862 01:21:46,780 --> 01:21:47,660 You know , most of them 1863 01:21:47,660 --> 01:21:48,640 You know , yeah 1864 01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,280 Hildemessnick went by there 1865 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,200 Hilde's still a good friend of mine 1866 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:54,040 She ran our west coast ko chang 1867 01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,760 and this all , uh , storyboard artist here you 1868 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:00,040 It's amazing 1869 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,960 Yeah , that all these people that , yeah 1870 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:02,560 When you see this 1871 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:02,760 Yeah 1872 01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:03,840 I was out of saying with hilddy 1873 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,800 She's , uh , now john freman 1874 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,760 No mcain and jerthe moo 1875 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,050 You know this song of dog and roger . they were great guys 1876 01:22:11,050 --> 01:22:12,790 Roger worked for a sun bow for years 1877 01:22:12,790 --> 01:22:16,540 After all this . he was , he was one of the last man standing 1878 01:22:19,410 --> 01:22:21,970 Yeah , look at these , they all these names coming back 1879 01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:27,840 Only evil you to go transfor me 1880 01:22:28,940 --> 01:22:31,060 Love all over me 1881 01:22:31,060 --> 01:22:34,060 The eyes transfor my 1882 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,360 oh oh my 新 the sky 1883 01:22:39,130 --> 01:22:42,130 Okay , well you , you know , thanks for , uh 1884 01:22:42,130 --> 01:22:44,290 Thanks everybody out there and , uh 1885 01:22:44,380 --> 01:22:45,660 In fan land for 1886 01:22:45,660 --> 01:22:48,820 Uh , for watching this and , uh , and goodbye 1887 01:22:48,820 --> 01:22:51,010 I'm flint . hi , this is susan again 1888 01:22:51,010 --> 01:22:51,930 Thank you very much 1889 01:22:51,930 --> 01:22:53,030 Uh , you know , i'm 1890 01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:55,590 I'm coming all the way from korea 1891 01:22:55,590 --> 01:22:57,660 You know , do this , uh 1892 01:22:57,660 --> 01:22:59,900 Uh , this nelson xin , uh , uh 1893 01:22:59,900 --> 01:23:01,900 Thank you and everybody 1894 01:23:01,900 --> 01:23:03,720 Thanks so much for listening to the commentary 1895 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,860 We should have fun and we hope you did too 1896 01:23:06,170 --> 01:23:07,490 春风吧 1897 01:23:08,440 --> 01:23:13,800 And all the beast the eye transfer 1898 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,800 Oh oh my single sky 1899 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:19,880 dance for my 1900 01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,920 oh all of my ways the battle to 1901 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,360 trace my mind heart 1902 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,840 It's just a dream now with mine or s 1903 01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:57,160 And for another pound of drop ers 1904 01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,640 Has been driven from a man 1905 01:24:01,260 --> 01:24:05,820 The man is all of the war has just begu 1906 01:24:06,650 --> 01:24:12,130 and this way will remain to the dream of w 1907 01:24:16,060 --> 01:24:17,380 transfor my 1908 01:24:22,180 --> 01:24:23,540 trust my mind 1909 01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,080 more than mewe are 1910 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,400 transformer